Posting replies vs starting a thread via email
In my tests where replies go to the list, when a person uses the email client? So far a reply to the original message and a reply to a reply to a reply all go in the same thread. Is this standard? Do I have to warn users not to have endless Re re re re?
And the other question is what happens if a user sends a message via email with a new subject? Does the list accept it as a new thread?
This should be one of my last big questions.
Thank you.
Paul
And the other question is what happens if a user sends a message via email with a new subject? Does the list accept it as a new thread?
I have accidentally tried it here. I wanted to post as new topic (thread) and I just edited the Subject field in the Gmail. But I was surprised - It didn't work. Post was not created as new one.
I use DMARC Mitigate unconditionally and it works great, but annoying that mailman does not cleaning headers. If anybody makes "Reply to all", the list members get all address from TO: and CC: fields as well. The same with re re re re. I would like option to clean that all header till message goes to members leaving just list address.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, at 9:26 PM, paul@arenson.org wrote:
In my tests where replies go to the list, when a person uses the email client? So far a reply to the original message and a reply to a reply to a reply all go in the same thread. Is this standard? Do I have to warn users not to have endless Re re re re?
Yes, the threading is implemented using a bunch of email headers, especially "In-Reply-To" and "References". If you reply to a message, it will go to the same thread.
Did you expect something else to happen?
And the other question is what happens if a user sends a message via email with a new subject? Does the list accept it as a new thread?
Like I mentioned before, the threading happens with email headers and not using the Subject. So, changing the subject will continue to keep the thread.
If you want a new thread, you send in a new email to the list's posting address instead of replying to an old thread.
This should be one of my last big questions.
Thank you.
Paul
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-- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)
Hi Ugnius
Thank you. I have Replace From: with list list address for no particular reason except I thought that ensures people stay with in the list and not accidentally reply to the individual (it is a discussion list
Could you explain why you chose YES for DMARC Mitigate unconditionally. I don't understand the technical language. What is it supposed to do that you find great (if you can, in non technical language).
Also, how does that interact with REPLY GOES TO LIST (no munging in my case) in ALTER messages. I want to make sure I have the best settings.
That is fine. I just want to avoid email only users who send the reply to a new thread by accident. Thanks for the clarification, Abhilash.
If you, or Ugnius, could help me understand then the three things and how I should set them to work together, I would be grateful.
REPLY GOES TO LIST (alter messages)--current settings REPLACE FROM: with list (DMARC mitigations) -> current settings DMARCH Mitigation YES OR NO (DMARC mitigations)--> currently NO (Ugnius is YES)
Thanks
Hi, Paul. For configuration, I would recommend to create separate list with own addresses only, and to play a little. I am not expert. I started to use DMARK option in mailman version 2. Because I started to get issues with the Yahoo members. Yahoo stopped to deliver messages from the list, when "reply to" was list address. DMARK made change in "From:" Messages started to come for example from: "Paul via list" <list@example.com>. You should use setup good to your case, because it could be different.
BR Ugnius
On 5 Sep 2019, at 03:34, paul@arenson.org wrote:
That is fine. I just want to avoid email only users who send the reply to a new thread by accident. Thanks for the clarification, Abhilash.
If you, or Ugnius, could help me understand then the three things and how I should set them to work together, I would be grateful.
REPLY GOES TO LIST (alter messages)--current settings REPLACE FROM: with list (DMARC mitigations) -> current settings DMARCH Mitigation YES OR NO (DMARC mitigations)--> currently NO (Ugnius is YES)
Thanks
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Ugnius wrote:
Hi, Paul. For configuration, I would recommend to create separate list with own addresses only, and to play a little.
Thanks, but I am on hosted and cannot afford to create other lists. Just wanted to see what others did, or what Mailman 2 or 3 recommends. I am using https://www.emwd.com/mailman-3-shared-list-hosting/.
I am not expert. I started to use DMARK option in
mailman version 2. Because I started to get issues with the Yahoo members. Yahoo stopped to deliver messages from the list, when "reply to" was list address. DMARK made change in "From:" Messages started to come for example from: "Paul via list" list@example.com. You should use setup good to your case,
Ah, I remember when we had that issue with a group I was hosting on Mailman 2. So maybe that is what I did. I guess to avoid problems with Yahoo and Gmail etc., it would be ok to use DMARC option.
It there a place where I can read about all the options?
then the latter part of my question had to do with DMARC MITIGATIONS. I do not understand the difference between selecting DMARC in ALTER MESSAGES and the choices available in DMARC MITIGATIONS. an you advice what settings to use or recommend a place where I can read about these? I currently have REPLACE FROM: with list and YES OR NO I have NO.
Thanks!!!
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