Mailman3 service won't start - Ubuntu 20.04
This is a fresh install (Ubuntu and mailman3), followed all steps in this document (https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html). However, when trying to start mailman3 automatically (step https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#starting-mailman...), it won't start, it's throwing this error: × mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2024-07-22 17:34:27 UTC; 8min ago Process: 1429 ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) CPU: 985ms
Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: id SERIAL NOT NULL, Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: email VARCHAR, Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: list_id VARCHAR, Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: PRIMARY KEY (id) Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: ) Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: ] Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/f405) Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: Failed to start mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager.
Ran "journalctl -xeu mailman3" for details and got this"
Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/sql/ddl.py", line 314, in _invoke_with Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: return bind.execute(self) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1418, in execute Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: return meth( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/sql/ddl.py", line 180, in _execute_on_connection Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: return connection._execute_ddl( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1529, in _execute_ddl Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ret = self._execute_context( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1846, in _execute_context Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: return self._exec_single_context( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1986, in _exec_single_context Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: self._handle_dbapi_exception( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 2353, in _handle_dbapi_exception Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: raise sqlalchemy_exception.with_traceback(exc_info[2]) from e Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1967, in _exec_single_context Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: self.dialect.do_execute( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/default.py", line 924, in do_execute Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: cursor.execute(statement, parameters) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: sqlalchemy.exc.ProgrammingError: (psycopg2.errors.InsufficientPrivilege) permission denied for schema public Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: LINE 2: CREATE TABLE ban ( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: [SQL: Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: CREATE TABLE ban ( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: id SERIAL NOT NULL, Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: email VARCHAR, Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: list_id VARCHAR, Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: PRIMARY KEY (id) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ] Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/f405) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE ░░ Subject: Unit process exited ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: http://www.ubuntu.com/support ░░ ░░ An ExecStart= process belonging to unit mailman3.service has exited. ░░ ░░ The process' exit code is 'exited' and its exit status is 1. Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. ░░ Subject: Unit failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: http://www.ubuntu.com/support ░░ ░░ The unit mailman3.service has entered the 'failed' state with result 'exit-code'. Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: Failed to start mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager. ░░ Subject: A start job for unit mailman3.service has failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: http://www.ubuntu.com/support ░░ ░░ A start job for unit mailman3.service has finished with a failure. ░░ ░░ The job identifier is 1101 and the job result is failed.
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 8:55 PM <willie.castillo@caemilusa.com> wrote:
This is a fresh install (Ubuntu and mailman3), followed all steps in this document (https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html). However, when trying to start mailman3 automatically (step https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#starting-mailman...), it won't start, it's throwing this error: × mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2024-07-22 17:34:27 UTC; 8min ago Process: 1429 ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) CPU: 985ms
Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: id SERIAL NOT NULL, Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: email VARCHAR, Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: list_id VARCHAR, Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: PRIMARY KEY (id) Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: ) Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: ] Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1429]: (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/f405) Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Jul 22 17:34:27 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: Failed to start mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager.
Ran "journalctl -xeu mailman3" for details and got this"
Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/sql/ddl.py", line 314, in _invoke_with Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: return bind.execute(self) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1418, in execute Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: return meth( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/sql/ddl.py", line 180, in _execute_on_connection Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: return connection._execute_ddl( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1529, in _execute_ddl Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ret = self._execute_context( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1846, in _execute_context Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: return self._exec_single_context( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1986, in _exec_single_context Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: self._handle_dbapi_exception( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 2353, in _handle_dbapi_exception Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: raise sqlalchemy_exception.with_traceback(exc_info[2]) from e Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1967, in _exec_single_context Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: self.dialect.do_execute( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/default.py", line 924, in do_execute Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: cursor.execute(statement, parameters) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: sqlalchemy.exc.ProgrammingError: (psycopg2.errors.InsufficientPrivilege) permission denied for schema public Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: LINE 2: CREATE TABLE ban ( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ^ Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: [SQL: Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: CREATE TABLE ban ( Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: id SERIAL NOT NULL, Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: email VARCHAR, Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: list_id VARCHAR, Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: PRIMARY KEY (id) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: ] Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1722]: (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/f405) Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE ░░ Subject: Unit process exited ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: http://www.ubuntu.com/support ░░ ░░ An ExecStart= process belonging to unit mailman3.service has exited. ░░ ░░ The process' exit code is 'exited' and its exit status is 1. Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. ░░ Subject: Unit failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: http://www.ubuntu.com/support ░░ ░░ The unit mailman3.service has entered the 'failed' state with result 'exit-code'. Jul 22 17:43:29 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: Failed to start mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager. ░░ Subject: A start job for unit mailman3.service has failed ░░ Defined-By: systemd ░░ Support: http://www.ubuntu.com/support ░░ ░░ A start job for unit mailman3.service has finished with a failure. ░░ ░░ The job identifier is 1101 and the job result is failed.
All I can say is that you skipped some steps related to PostgreSQL 15+ during the installation process. Maybe this should be added to the documentation. You should have encountered permission errors from the point of `mailman-web migrate'. I am wondering whether you did run those steps. From PostgreSQL 15+, you need to run additional commands to grant the mailman ROLE extra permissions in the PUBLIC schema:
https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com/en/error-permission-denied-schema-public...
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
Hi Odhiambo and thank you for replying. I did follow every step related to database creation in this document (https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setup-database). Perhaps like you said, additional database steps should be added to the document.
Also, the error is from a step way before the "mailman-web migrate" step. Not sure what else was supposed to be done during the "setup-database" configuration step
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 10:52 PM <willie.castillo@caemilusa.com> wrote:
Hi Odhiambo and thank you for replying. I did follow every step related to database creation in this document ( https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setup-database). Perhaps like you said, additional database steps should be added to the document.
Also, the error is from a step way before the "mailman-web migrate" step. Not sure what else was supposed to be done during the "setup-database" configuration step
So you were not supposed to ignore the errors and proceed! Anyways.. #su postgres \c MAILMABDB postgres GRANT ALL ON SCHEMA public to MAILMANUSER; # Do this for the two databases you created \c MAILMANWEBDB postgres GRANT ALL ON SCHEMA public to MAILMANUSER; \q
That's off the top of my head.
After that run the migrations and everything else as documented.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
Again, thank you for replying. However, the step you provided did not make any difference. I'm still getting the same error: × mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2024-07-22 20:17:57 UTC; 1min 31s ago Process: 1466 ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) CPU: 827ms
Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: id SERIAL NOT NULL, Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: email VARCHAR, Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: list_id VARCHAR, Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: PRIMARY KEY (id) Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ) Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ] Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/f405) Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 systemd[1]: Failed to start mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager. root@tpalxinflistsp1:~# journalctl -xeu mailman3.service Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: return bind.execute(self) Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1418, in execute Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: return meth( Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ^^^^^ Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/sql/ddl.py", line 180, in _execute_on_connection Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: return connection._execute_ddl( Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1529, in _execute_ddl Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ret = self._execute_context( Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1846, in _execute_context Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: return self._exec_single_context( Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1986, in _exec_single_context Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: self._handle_dbapi_exception( Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 2353, in _handle_dbapi_exception Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: raise sqlalchemy_exception.with_traceback(exc_info[2]) from e Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 1967, in _exec_single_context Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: self.dialect.do_execute( Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/default.py", line 924, in do_execute Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: cursor.execute(statement, parameters) Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: sqlalchemy.exc.ProgrammingError: (psycopg2.errors.InsufficientPrivilege) permission denied for schema public Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: LINE 2: CREATE TABLE ban ( Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ^ Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: [SQL: Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: CREATE TABLE ban ( Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: id SERIAL NOT NULL, Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: email VARCHAR, Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: list_id VARCHAR, Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: PRIMARY KEY (id) Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ) Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: ] Jul 22 20:17:57 tpalxinflistsp1 mailman[1466]: (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/f405)
BTW, no errors were ignored/skipped at all. The database step did not generate any errors, it just creates the two databases (mailman and mailmanweb) and adds permissions to "mailman" user (https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setup-database)
Thank you for replying, I got mailman3 working with the postgres steps you mentioned in your reply. Also, you are right, the current document is tailored for psql (12.5 (Ubuntu 12.5-0ubuntu0.20.04.1)). I'm currently running psql (16.3 (Ubuntu 16.3-0ubuntu0.24.04.1))
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 10:16 PM <willie.castillo@caemilusa.com> wrote:
Thank you for replying, I got mailman3 working with the postgres steps you mentioned in your reply. Also, you are right, the current document is tailored for psql (12.5 (Ubuntu 12.5-0ubuntu0.20.04.1)). I'm currently running psql (16.3 (Ubuntu 16.3-0ubuntu0.24.04.1))
Good to know that you finally got it working, despite breaking the threads badly :)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
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