Hi all,
our University has various departments and research projects and teams. Each of them might want more than one mailing list.
It would be straight forward to create mailing lists such as:
<list-name>@lists.mydomain.ch
Example: In this case "digital" is an entity / Project / Department
marketing.digital@lists.zhaw.ch<mailto:marketing.digital@lists.zhaw.ch>
newsletter.digital@lists.zhaw.ch<mailto:newsletter.digital@lists.zhaw.ch>
research.digital@lists.zhaw.ch<mailto:research.digital@lists.zhaw.ch>
Other Examples might be:
help.health@lists.zhaw.ch
newsletter.health@lists.zhaw.ch
research.health@lists.zhaw.ch<mailto:research.health@lists.zhaw.ch>
If entities have more than one mailing list, it is required to build a stronger "mailing list identity", it is required to let the "entity" be part of the domain name:
marketing@digital.lists.zhaw.ch
newsletter@digital@lists.zhaw.ch
career@health.lists.zhaw.ch
newsletter@health.lists.zhaw.ch
career@ict.lists.zhaw.ch
support@ict.lists.zhaw.ch
The University of Zurich (uzh.ch) does this as well and it looks very reasonable and useful to me:
https://lists.uzh.ch/sympa/ca/domains
https://business.lists.uzh.ch/sympa
https://dqbm.lists.uzh.ch/sympa
https://chess.lists.uzh.ch/sympa
I have setup this mailing list test@digital.lists.zhaw.ch<mailto:test@digital.lists.zhaw.ch> but subscribing failed.
Subscribing via the Mass Import Form failed with a Server Error message in the browser.Subscribing via e-mail test-join@digital.lists.zhaw.ch<mailto:test-join@digital.lists.zhaw.ch> because no response came from MM3.
The mail to join has been delivered properly to MM3 but MM3 has swallowed the mail w/o response or error message. There also has not been any pending subscription.
2019-10-23T19:51:33.678705+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98348]: connect from srv-mail-013.zhaw.ch[160.85.104.123]
2019-10-23T19:51:33.692258+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98348]: A8EFC3FA6A: client=srv-mail-013.zhaw.ch[160.85.104.123]
2019-10-23T19:51:33.693192+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/cleanup[98351]: A8EFC3FA6A: message-id=<eb90deb6-58af-a873-3382-c27ce6d05031@anydomain.org>
2019-10-23T19:51:33.704102+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/qmgr[90603]: A8EFC3FA6A: from=<name@anydomain.org>, size=5329, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
2019-10-23T19:51:33.704864+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98348]: disconnect from srv-mail-013.zhaw.ch[160.85.104.123] ehlo=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 quit=1 commands=5
2019-10-23T19:51:33.763670+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/lmtp[98352]: A8EFC3FA6A: to=<test-join@digital.lists.zhaw.ch>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.08, delays=0.02/0.01/0/0.05, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok)
2019-10-23T19:51:33.764485+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/qmgr[90603]: A8EFC3FA6A: removed
2019-10-23T19:52:29.278529+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98348]: table hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp(0,lock|fold_fix|utf8_request) has changed -- restarting
2019-10-23T19:52:29.286154+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98558]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
2019-10-23T19:52:29.288612+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/cleanup[98351]: table hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_domains(0,lock|utf8_request) has changed -- restarting
2019-10-23T19:52:29.292655+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98558]: 476AD3FA6A: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
2019-10-23T19:52:29.293671+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/cleanup[98559]: 476AD3FA6A: message-id=<157185314763.94537.10517326910475727036@svma-s-01321.zhaw.ch>
2019-10-23T19:52:29.296393+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/qmgr[90603]: table hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_domains(0,lock|utf8_request) has changed -- restarting
2019-10-23T19:52:29.298231+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98558]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] ehlo=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 commands=4
I'd be grateful for a useful hint what is going wrong here?
Kind regards,
Uri Liebeskind
--
Zurich University of Applied Sciences
Information and Communication Technology
Uri Liebeskind
System Administrator
Gertrudstrasse 15
Postfach 805
CH-8401 Winterthur
Tel. +41 58 934 72 63
Fax. +41 58 935 72 63
On 10/23/19 12:53 PM, Liebeskind Uri (luri) wrote:
I have setup this mailing list test@digital.lists.zhaw.ch but subscribing failed.
How did you create the list and the digital.lists.zhaw.ch domain in Mailman?
Subscribing via the Mass Import Form failed with a Server Error message in the browser.
Log messages may help here. I can't tell you where to find them in your installation, but your Django settings or local settings will define LOGGING['handlers']['file']['filename'] which is where your Django logs are. and your various Mailman logs are generally in Mailman's var/logs/ directory. You may find a traceback from this error in the Django log or in Mailman's error.log or access.log.
Subscribing via e-mail test-join@digital.lists.zhaw.ch<mailto:test-join@digital.lists.zhaw.ch> because no response came from MM3.
This is Postfix. See below.
The mail to join has been delivered properly to MM3 but MM3 has swallowed the mail w/o response or error message. There also has not been any pending subscription.
MM3 did respond. See below.
2019-10-23T19:51:33.678705+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98348]: connect from srv-mail-013.zhaw.ch[160.85.104.123]
2019-10-23T19:51:33.692258+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98348]: A8EFC3FA6A: client=srv-mail-013.zhaw.ch[160.85.104.123]
2019-10-23T19:51:33.693192+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/cleanup[98351]: A8EFC3FA6A: message-id=<eb90deb6-58af-a873-3382-c27ce6d05031@anydomain.org>
2019-10-23T19:51:33.704102+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/qmgr[90603]: A8EFC3FA6A: from=<name@anydomain.org>, size=5329, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
2019-10-23T19:51:33.704864+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98348]: disconnect from srv-mail-013.zhaw.ch[160.85.104.123] ehlo=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 quit=1 commands=5
2019-10-23T19:51:33.763670+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/lmtp[98352]: A8EFC3FA6A: to=<test-join@digital.lists.zhaw.ch>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.08, delays=0.02/0.01/0/0.05, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok)
Per the above the message was delivered to Mailman.
2019-10-23T19:51:33.764485+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/qmgr[90603]: A8EFC3FA6A: removed
2019-10-23T19:52:29.278529+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98348]: table hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_lmtp(0,lock|fold_fix|utf8_request) has changed -- restarting
Why all these table changes/restarts?
2019-10-23T19:52:29.286154+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98558]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Mailman has connected to Postfix.
2019-10-23T19:52:29.288612+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/cleanup[98351]: table hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_domains(0,lock|utf8_request) has changed -- restarting
2019-10-23T19:52:29.292655+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98558]: 476AD3FA6A: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
2019-10-23T19:52:29.293671+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/cleanup[98559]: 476AD3FA6A: message-id=<157185314763.94537.10517326910475727036@svma-s-01321.zhaw.ch>
And delivered its response, message-id=<157185314763.94537.10517326910475727036@svma-s-01321.zhaw.ch> to Postfix.
2019-10-23T19:52:29.296393+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/qmgr[90603]: table hash:/var/lib/mailman3/data/postfix_domains(0,lock|utf8_request) has changed -- restarting
2019-10-23T19:52:29.298231+02:00 svma-s-01321 postfix/smtpd[98558]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] ehlo=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 commands=4
So the message was delivered to Postfix with the four commands ehlo, mail, rcpt and data. This is normal. What did Postfix do with the message?
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