Hi Paul,

I believe we are the only shared Mailman 3 service at the moment. Other companies that offer Mailman 3 hosting seem to only offer it on a dedicated environment which can be expensive for a single list owner. However we also offer that option but mainly has a cost savings alternative to those who need to host more than 10 lists. We have found Mailman 3 to require more maintenance than Mailman 2 and it seems to require more server resources.

I believe we are also the only company that provides an installation service on those who want it on their own dedicated environment however we only do this for CentOS 7 and we utilize the Docker version of Mailman 3. The positive side is we setup the whole shebang including Nginx, Exim, and Let's Encrypt.

I doubt cPanel (or any other Hosting control panel) will ever offer Mailman 3 in their package.

Have a great day!

Brian Carpenter EMWD.com brian@emwd.com

-----Original Message----- From: paul@arenson.org paul@arenson.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 12:41 AM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Status of hosting options after a year for non techies

Hi all

This is Paul Arenson in Japan. I temporarily dropped off the list year ago when it was clear there was no Cpanel Solution forthcoming. I thought I would check in again. I used to be on CPanel and I was advised it might be a wait.

1. I am now on Plesk. I heard Plesk might allow Docker and installation may be possible. Am I misinformed or a possibility? --->Assuming no, I guess jump to question 4.

2. Assuming yes, I see a list of people who can possibly help install. https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services Only a few people on it. Has anyone used any or can recommend someone.

3. There is also a Python list, but before I submit a request, is this something that works on general. For example, when a new version or bug release comes up, will I need to call on the person or persons again? Is it still better to wait?

4. Hosting services: Only a few listed at https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services are or Mailman 3. Has anyone used this: https://mailman3.com The site seems incomplete.

Or this: https://maadix.net/en/servers Looks good. Might be a bit expensive for my use.

Or this: https://www.mailmanhost.com/mailman-3-hosting/ Also looks good. A long time ago we corresponded. They seem reasonable. My list is about 700 people.

These seem to be the same people: https://www.emwd.com/mailman-3-shared-list-hosting/

Any others I should know about?

Thanks in advance.

paul arenson japan

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Sure Paul. That would be great.

Have a great day!

Brian Carpenter EMWD.com brian@emwd.com

-----Original Message----- From: paul@arenson.org paul@arenson.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 8:03 AM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Status of hosting options after a year for non techies

Thank you Brian. I remember that I to you in reference to MM3 and a small group I was hosting for. Probably before you started offering MN3. This time it is for my own personal mailing list, which I hope to make a discussion list. Problem will be low usage based on past experience with various other lists-Dada, MM 2, and way back, Topica, etc.

As you said, the other group test offers MM 3 does it in an environment of multiple tools, which I don’t need.

I think I would like to set up an instance. We have 600 or 700 users on Mailer-lite at the moment. May I contact you in a couple of days on your website?

Thanks,

Paul

In Japan, where it is now 9 pm Monday while probably 8 AM Monday in North (?) Carolina.

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