I need professional help to get virtualenv Mailman3 installation running
Hello,
I have been running Linux mailman2 servers for about 10 years, and sendmail/postfix servers for over 20 years.
I have a client who wants to upgrade to Mailman 3 from their current Mailman2 system. I wanted to avoid the disruption of an upgrade, so I implemented a series of test servers with different names (leaving the mailman2 server in production at its historical address) running Ubuntu 18 and Ubuntu 20, using the mailman3 packages (3.1and 3.2 respectively). I sort of got it running with mailman 3.2 on Ubuntu 20, but couldn’t get Hyperkitty archiving to work.
Plus the fact that mail bounce handling isn’t implemented prior to mailman 3.3.2, I decided to install the latest mailman version available in a venv environment, using the instructions at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html
I followed the instructions carefully using the same paths, and tracked down and fixed errors as each step progressed. I finally set up a WSGI server according to the instructions, searched for and found (fragmentary) instructions for setting up the Apache configuration, started the mailman3 and mailman web services, and now have no errors in the /opt/mailman/web/logs files, the /var/log/apache files, and in syslog.
But when I try to connect via the Web, I get the message "Server error An error occurred while processing your request.” in my browser. No other clues. I’m completely stuck, and I need help to conclude this rapidly, the client really needs the new service up and running ASAP.
I’m at the limit of my competence. I’ve been learning Python on and off (insufficient available time), and I installed Django and ran the tutorials. I still am woefully unskilled in the subtleties of a complex Python project like Mailman/Posterious/Hyperkitty, and I really need the help of an expert who can log into the server and see for themselves where the problem(s) are, and fix them.
What I need is an experienced Python programmer, who has installed, run, and upgraded venv mailman3 installations. Of course, I will pay for this expertise, and charge it to the end client. In other words, I will pay you directly, and then I will worry about getting paid myself later. I am ready to pay €60/h for your skills, paid directly to your bank account, after receipt of your invoice. It shouldn’t be all that much work, since everything has been installed according to instructions, I’m just not a good enough Python programmer to get all the parts to work together correctly.
It’s important to note that the end client is an organisation of European political parties, the virtual machine running the Ubuntu 20 server is hosted at OVH in France. Thus the professional with whom I would work should preferably also be based in the EU, and subject to EU law.
Practically speaking, if anyone is interested, please send me a direct email with your email address and phone number, and then we can discuss how to do this practically in terms of SSH access, passwords, etc.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I hope some Python Mailman pro can come to my aid.
John
On 8/8/21 2:02 PM, John Seifarth via Mailman-users wrote:
But when I try to connect via the Web, I get the message "Server error An error occurred while processing your request.” in my browser. No other clues. I’m completely stuck, and I need help to conclude this rapidly, the client really needs the new service up and running ASAP.
What's in /opt/mailman/web/logs/mailmanweb.log, /opt/mailman/web/logs/uwsgi*.log and also maybe Apache's error log?
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On 8/8/21 23:02, John Seifarth via Mailman-users wrote:
Hello,
I have been running Linux mailman2 servers for about 10 years, and sendmail/postfix servers for over 20 years.
I have a client who wants to upgrade to Mailman 3 from their current Mailman2 system. I wanted to avoid the disruption of an upgrade, so I implemented a series of test servers with different names (leaving the mailman2 server in production at its historical address) running Ubuntu 18 and Ubuntu 20, using the mailman3 packages (3.1and 3.2 respectively). I sort of got it running with mailman 3.2 on Ubuntu 20, but couldn’t get Hyperkitty archiving to work.
Plus the fact that mail bounce handling isn’t implemented prior to mailman 3.3.2, I decided to install the latest mailman version available in a venv environment, using the instructions at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html
I followed the instructions carefully using the same paths, and tracked down and fixed errors as each step progressed. I finally set up a WSGI server according to the instructions, searched for and found (fragmentary) instructions for setting up the Apache configuration, started the mailman3 and mailman web services, and now have no errors in the /opt/mailman/web/logs files, the /var/log/apache files, and in syslog.
But when I try to connect via the Web, I get the message "Server error An error occurred while processing your request.” in my browser. No other clues. I’m completely stuck, and I need help to conclude this rapidly, the client really needs the new service up and running ASAP.
That sounds as a config errors in Apache (did you load the uswgi apache module, review the ports have been opened and other things related?).
I dn't really believe that you have to be an "expert" programmer in Python to make mailman3 works. I'm not, and I did it. But I understand that the lack of confidence in an area could be overwhelming.
I could point you to a thread I wrote in FreeBSD forums where I posted config examples of all. It's not the same O.S. but the config files would apply the same.
https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/mailman-3.61050/post-488122
The first post is about the things I did 'nt made well, and the second is about what did work well.
Maybe it helps.
I’m at the limit of my competence. I’ve been learning Python on and off (insufficient available time), and I installed Django and ran the tutorials. I still am woefully unskilled in the subtleties of a complex Python project like Mailman/Posterious/Hyperkitty, and I really need the help of an expert who can log into the server and see for themselves where the problem(s) are, and fix them.
What I need is an experienced Python programmer, who has installed, run, and upgraded venv mailman3 installations. Of course, I will pay for this expertise, and charge it to the end client. In other words, I will pay you directly, and then I will worry about getting paid myself later. I am ready to pay €60/h for your skills, paid directly to your bank account, after receipt of your invoice. It shouldn’t be all that much work, since everything has been installed according to instructions, I’m just not a good enough Python programmer to get all the parts to work together correctly.
It’s important to note that the end client is an organisation of European political parties, the virtual machine running the Ubuntu 20 server is hosted at OVH in France. Thus the professional with whom I would work should preferably also be based in the EU, and subject to EU law.
Practically speaking, if anyone is interested, please send me a direct email with your email address and phone number, and then we can discuss how to do this practically in terms of SSH access, passwords, etc.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I hope some Python Mailman pro can come to my aid.
John
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