On 6/10/19 6:21 PM, andrew.bernard@gmail.com wrote:

is there a tutorial or some examples for using the mailman shell? Is there detailed documentation on it?

What documentation there is is at <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/docs/shell.html>

Anything I try to do such as the following fails:

$ mailman shell Welcome to the GNU Mailman shell

...

...

...

command('mailman shell --details') Traceback (most recent call last): File "<console>", line 1, in <module> NameError: name 'command' is not defined

You could just do mailman shell --details at a command prompt.

Perhaps you saw the command('mailman shell --details') line in the docs at <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/commands/docs/shell.html#getting-detailed-help> in any case, that requires two things to precede it. The first is part of the doctest infrastructure and is not evident in the docs. that step is

from mailman.testing.documentation import cli

The second step is in the docs and is

command = cli('mailman.commands.cli_withlist.shell')

If you do those two steps within mailman shell, then the step

command('mailman shell --details')

will work, but as I said, this is just the same as doing mailman shell --details at a command prompt.

Beyond that, actually doing stuff within mailman shell requires some knowledge of Mailman interfaces, methods and objects as well as Python. Some of this is covered throughout the documentation at <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/> but some can only be found in the source code itself.

That said, all the interfaces and a few other useful functions are imported for you in mailman shell interactive mode. do dir() to see what these are.

-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

On 6/11/19 6:00 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote:

I have this going, and it is great. But I recall seeing something called mmclient or similar which has simple commands like show user, show lists, and so on. Is that still available?

Are you thinking of the mailman command itself? Things like mailman lists and mailman users. Try running the mailman command itself with no arguments to see a list of sub-commands and then mailman sub-command --help to get the details of a particular subcommand.

Now knowing how mailman shell works, anybody could write their own commands, but I don't want to reinvent wheels.

I don't know what it is you are trying to accomplish, but yes, you can create scripts which you run via mailman shell -run ..., but is there something specific you are trying to do that is not currently available via the mailman command or the Postorius wb UI?

-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

On 1/15/20 11:03 AM, dancab@caltech.edu wrote:

I'm now trying to do some simple injection testing via command line. But I seem to be missing something.

I've tried using mailman inject with the filename option to one of the lists I've imported but still no luck.

What is the command you are giving? It should be something like

mailman inject -f your_file listname.example.com

You could also specify -q in but that's the default.

What does the message in your_file look like? Does it have a complete set of headers including To:, From:, Subject:, Date: and Message-ID:, and is To: the list posting address?

-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan