Problem getting Mailman3 to work with Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS
Hello everyone,
We have been using Mailman3 for over a year and half. We upgraded from Ubuntu 22.04.5, where it was working fine, to Ubuntu 22.04.1. Since then, mailman3 won’t work. When we tried to start it immediately after the upgrade, we got this error:
024-09-12T23:08:04.322353+00:00 weather1 systemd[1]: Starting mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager... 2024-09-12T23:08:04.935569+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: SystemError: type psycopg2.extensions.ReplicationConnection has the Py_TPFLAGS_HAVE_GC flag but has no traverse function 2024-09-12T23:08:04.942784+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception: 2024-09-12T23:08:04.942869+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: Traceback (most recent call last): 2024-09-12T23:08:04.942938+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman", line 8, in <module> 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943001+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: sys.exit(main()) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943123+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943188+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1157, in __call__ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943242+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: return self.main(*args, **kwargs) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943284+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943325+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1077, in main 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943449+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: with self.make_context(prog_name, args, **extra) as ctx: 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943508+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943553+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 943, in make_context 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943594+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: self.parse_args(ctx, args) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943753+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1644, in parse_args 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943799+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: rest = super().parse_args(ctx, args) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943867+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943911+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1408, in parse_args 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943952+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: value, args = param.handle_parse_result(ctx, opts, args) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944001+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944043+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 2400, in handle_parse_result 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944085+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: value = self.process_value(ctx, value) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944127+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944182+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 2362, in process_value 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944249+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: value = self.callback(ctx, self, value) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944293+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944335+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 95, in initialize_config 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944376+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: initialize(value) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944419+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 229, in initialize 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944460+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: initialize_2(propagate_logs=propagate_logs) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944518+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 187, in initialize_2 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944561+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: config.db = getUtility(IDatabaseFactory, utility_name).create() 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944603+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944708+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/database/factory.py", line 57, in create 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944769+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: database.initialize() 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944856+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/database/base.py", line 117, in initialize 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944899+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: self.engine = create_engine( 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944941+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944982+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "<string>", line 2, in create_engine 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945025+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/util/deprecations.py", line 281, in warned 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945070+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: return fn(*args, **kwargs) # type: ignore[no-any-return] 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945112+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945165+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/create.py", line 599, in create_engine 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945208+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: dbapi = dbapi_meth(**dbapi_args) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945249+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945291+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy/dialects/postgresql/psycopg2.py", line 690, in import_dbapi 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945332+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: import psycopg2 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945374+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/psycopg2/__init__.py", line 51, in <module> 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945425+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: from psycopg2._psycopg import ( # noqa 2024-09-12T23:08:04.945478+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: SystemError: initialization of _psycopg raised unreported exception 2024-09-12T23:08:05.071429+00:00 weather1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE 2024-09-12T23:08:05.071768+00:00 weather1 systemd[1]: mailman3.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. 2024-09-12T23:08:05.072429+00:00 weather1 systemd[1]: Failed to start mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager.
So, ultimately, what we decided to do was reinstall it. But the compilation fails when it tries to make a venv (virtual environment) with this error:
2024-09-12T23:08:04.322353+00:00 weather1 systemd[1]: Starting mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager... 2024-09-12T23:08:04.935569+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: SystemError: type psycopg2.extensions.ReplicationConnection has the Py_TPFLAGS_HAVE_GC flag but has no traverse function 2024-09-12T23:08:04.942784+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception: 2024-09-12T23:08:04.942869+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: Traceback (most recent call last): 2024-09-12T23:08:04.942938+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/opt/mailman/venv/bin/mailman", line 8, in <module> 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943001+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: sys.exit(main()) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943123+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943188+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1157, in __call__ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943242+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: return self.main(*args, **kwargs) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943284+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943325+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1077, in main 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943449+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: with self.make_context(prog_name, args, **extra) as ctx: 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943508+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943553+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 943, in make_context 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943594+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: self.parse_args(ctx, args) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943753+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1644, in parse_args 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943799+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: rest = super().parse_args(ctx, args) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943867+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943911+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 1408, in parse_args 2024-09-12T23:08:04.943952+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: value, args = param.handle_parse_result(ctx, opts, args) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944001+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944043+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 2400, in handle_parse_result 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944085+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: value = self.process_value(ctx, value) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944127+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944182+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/click/core.py", line 2362, in process_value 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944249+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: value = self.callback(ctx, self, value) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944293+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944335+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 95, in initialize_config 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944376+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: initialize(value) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944419+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 229, in initialize 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944460+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: initialize_2(propagate_logs=propagate_logs) 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944518+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: File "/home/mailman/venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 187, in initialize_2 2024-09-12T23:08:04.944561+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: config.db = getUtility(IDatabaseFactory, utility_name).create()
But yet, we have this installed:
venv mailman@weather1:~$ pip install psycopg2-binary Requirement already satisfied: psycopg2-binary in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (2.8.6)
Any advice on how to get this working again would be GREATLY appreciated!
Gilbert Sebenste Meteorology Support Analyst College of DuPage
On 9/12/24 20:52, sebensteg@cod.edu wrote:
Hello everyone,
We have been using Mailman3 for over a year and half. We upgraded from Ubuntu 22.04.5, where it was working fine, to Ubuntu 22.04.1. Since then, mailman3 won’t work. When we tried to start it immediately after the upgrade, we got this error:
024-09-12T23:08:04.322353+00:00 weather1 systemd[1]: Starting mailman3.service - GNU Mailing List Manager... 2024-09-12T23:08:04.935569+00:00 weather1 mailman[23628]: SystemError: type psycopg2.extensions.ReplicationConnection has the Py_TPFLAGS_HAVE_GC flag but has no traverse function
See https://github.com/psycopg/psycopg2/issues/1598
...
But yet, we have this installed:
venv mailman@weather1:~$ pip install psycopg2-binary Requirement already satisfied: psycopg2-binary in ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (2.8.6)
Any advice on how to get this working again would be GREATLY appreciated!
Try
pip install --upgrade psycopg2-binary
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thank you, Mark, I appreciate it! I'll see if we can get this new version installed on 24.04.1.
This got mailman3 working, but mailmanweb is still borked. Does anyone know what might cause this:
systemctl status mailmanweb
mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2024-09-13 18:55:37 UTC; 12s ago Duration: 1ms Process: 562668 ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/uwsgi --ini /etc/mailman3/uwsgi.ini (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) Main PID: 562668 (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) CPU: 700us
Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: mailmanweb.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=203/EXEC Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: mailmanweb.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Hi Gilbert. I don't know the solution. However, FWIW, I found the Ubuntu 24.04 LTS packages to be unusable and not fit for purpose.
I tried to get them running on a fresh installation of 24.04 and ran into huge problems. The packages include outdated versions of the Mailman software and dependencies, and components of Mailman are stored in places that are non-standard and undocumented. Among other things, there were problems with file ownership since the Ubuntu/Debian approach is different from the Mailman3 official documentation.
After getting some guidance from this list (which you can see in the archives), I abandoned the effort and installed it in a virtual environment per the instructions. That worked fine. It's a non-trivial installation, even so - many configuration files need to be created or edited.
I will be curious to learn whether you get Mailman3 working correctly from the Ubuntu packages. Like you, I needed to port existing lists (from Mailman 2.1) and I eventually gave up. With the packages, it was a situation where I would think I had solved "the" problem, and then other problems kept appearing. ~ Greg
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 11:59 AM <sebensteg@cod.edu> wrote:
This got mailman3 working, but mailmanweb is still borked. Does anyone know what might cause this:
systemctl status mailmanweb
mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2024-09-13 18:55:37 UTC; 12s ago Duration: 1ms Process: 562668 ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/uwsgi --ini /etc/mailman3/uwsgi.ini (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) Main PID: 562668 (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) CPU: 700us
Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: mailmanweb.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=203/EXEC Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: mailmanweb.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
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Hi Greg,
We are using the venv method. Did you get it working on that? Did you require a special configuration for mailmanweb?
Gilbert
Gilbert Sebenste Meteorology Support Analyst
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Hi Gilbert. I don't know the solution. However, FWIW, I found the Ubuntu 24.04 LTS packages to be unusable and not fit for purpose.
I tried to get them running on a fresh installation of 24.04 and ran into huge problems. The packages include outdated versions of the Mailman software and dependencies, and components of Mailman are stored in places that are non-standard and undocumented. Among other things, there were problems with file ownership since the Ubuntu/Debian approach is different from the Mailman3 official documentation.
After getting some guidance from this list (which you can see in the archives), I abandoned the effort and installed it in a virtual environment per the instructions. That worked fine. It's a non-trivial installation, even so - many configuration files need to be created or edited.
I will be curious to learn whether you get Mailman3 working correctly from the Ubuntu packages. Like you, I needed to port existing lists (from Mailman 2.1) and I eventually gave up. With the packages, it was a situation where I would think I had solved "the" problem, and then other problems kept appearing. ~ Greg
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 11:59 AM <sebensteg@cod.edu<mailto:sebensteg@cod.edu>> wrote: This got mailman3 working, but mailmanweb is still borked. Does anyone know what might cause this:
systemctl status mailmanweb
mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2024-09-13 18:55:37 UTC; 12s ago Duration: 1ms Process: 562668 ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/uwsgi --ini /etc/mailman3/uwsgi.ini (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) Main PID: 562668 (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) CPU: 700us
Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: mailmanweb.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=203/EXEC Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: mailmanweb.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
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Gotcha. We found the issue on our end...we forgot to install:
pip install uwsgi
Whoops. That fixed it, and we are back. Thanks for the advice!
Hi Gilbert. Yes, the venv method worked well under Ubuntu 24.04 (fresh install).
The big problems I had were with the Ubuntu/Debian packages. ~ Greg
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 12:45 PM Sebenste, Gilbert <sebensteg@cod.edu> wrote:
Hi Greg,
We are using the venv method. Did you get it working on that? Did you require a special configuration for mailmanweb?
Gilbert
Gilbert Sebenste
Meteorology Support Analyst
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Hi Gilbert. I don't know the solution. However, FWIW, I found the Ubuntu 24.04 LTS packages to be unusable and not fit for purpose.
I tried to get them running on a fresh installation of 24.04 and ran into huge problems. The packages include outdated versions of the Mailman software and dependencies, and components of Mailman are stored in places that are non-standard and undocumented. Among other things, there were problems with file ownership since the Ubuntu/Debian approach is different from the Mailman3 official documentation.
After getting some guidance from this list (which you can see in the archives), I abandoned the effort and installed it in a virtual environment per the instructions. That worked fine. It's a non-trivial installation, even so - many configuration files need to be created or edited.
I will be curious to learn whether you get Mailman3 working correctly from the Ubuntu packages. Like you, I needed to port existing lists (from Mailman 2.1) and I eventually gave up. With the packages, it was a situation where I would think I had solved "the" problem, and then other problems kept appearing.
~ Greg
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 11:59 AM <sebensteg@cod.edu> wrote:
This got mailman3 working, but mailmanweb is still borked. Does anyone know what might cause this:
systemctl status mailmanweb
mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2024-09-13 18:55:37 UTC; 12s ago Duration: 1ms Process: 562668 ExecStart=/opt/mailman/venv/bin/uwsgi --ini /etc/mailman3/uwsgi.ini (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) Main PID: 562668 (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) CPU: 700us
Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: Started mailmanweb.service - GNU Mailman Web UI. Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: mailmanweb.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=203/EXEC Sep 13 18:55:37 server1 systemd[1]: mailmanweb.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
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