i assume that mailman-web migrate runs both makemigrations and migrations?

On 9/26/22 09:14, tflatley@gmail.com wrote:

hello again, running a venv installation i think the tables in 2 databases (mailman/mailmanweb) were initially created by running mailman-web migrate

Probably not. First of all, mailman-web migrate will only affect the mailmanweb database, not the mailman database, migrations for which are run implicitly when Mailman core is started.

Also, migrations will only affect tables for which there are migrations, not all tables.

this wrapper is not available in a package install - so i think i need to run something like this after editing my settings.py file

python3 manage.py migrate

Yes.

Operations to perform: Apply all migrations: account, admin, auth, contenttypes, django_mailman3, django_q, hyperkitty, postorius, sessions, sites, socialaccount Running migrations: No migrations to apply. Your models have changes that are not yet reflected in a migration, and so won't be applied. Run 'manage.py makemigrations' to make new migrations, and then re-run 'manage.py migrate' to apply them.

The above message saying you need to make migrations because of changes to models indicates that your Debian/Ubuntu package is broken as the packager should have created all necessary migrations.

i do see tables in the mailman db but mailmanweb is empty - is there a different flag i need to run to seed the mailmanweb db?

I am confused as to why you are trying to run an out of date and possibly broken Debian/Ubuntu package when it appears you have successfully installed the latest PyPI packages in a venv.

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On 9/26/22 21:18, tflatley@gmail.com wrote:

3. client requirements did not allow for venv - i needed to install packages using apt

Did not allow for a venv or required a package? If the only issue was the use of a venv, you can install Mailman in the same way without creating/activating a venv, and I think that would still be preferable to using the Debian/Ubuntu packages.

4. so the questions i was asking on this forum were to understand differences between the venv method ( which i ran successfully ) and using packages , which presented some challenges

Note that when you use a downstream package, your primary support resource should be the packager who presumably is more familiar with that package than we are.

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