MM2 to MM3 Archives Loading
Hi everyone,
I’ve successfully converted a list from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3, and most things are working smoothly. However, I’m encountering an issue with the archives in the GUI:
Problem: The archives don’t load on the overview page. Odd Behavior: If I use the search function, the archives appear as expected, but they remain invisible on the main overview. Has anyone encountered this issue or have suggestions for troubleshooting?
Thanks in advance for your help!
On 11/21/24 13:16, Joshua Bushe wrote:
I’ve successfully converted a list from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3, and most things are working smoothly. However, I’m encountering an issue with the archives in the GUI:
Problem: The archives don’t load on the overview page. Odd Behavior: If I use the search function, the archives appear as expected, but they remain invisible on the main overview. Has anyone encountered this issue or have suggestions for troubleshooting?
Are either of the Hide inactive or Hide private boxes checked? Is there anything relevant in Django's logs?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Unsure where these hide inactive or hide private boxes are located. Looked through all settings.
Nothing strange in Django's logs.
Only thing I've noticed is that when i look at my listing. It has the list name then it says "inactive". Not sure if or how to change that to something else?
On 11/22/24 11:02, Joshua Bushe wrote:
Unsure where these hide inactive or hide private boxes are located. Looked through all settings.
They are at the top of the main Hyperkitty overview page. E.g. like https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/
Nothing strange in Django's logs.
Only thing I've noticed is that when i look at my listing. It has the list name then it says "inactive". Not sure if or how to change that to something else?
inactive
means no posts in the last 30 days.
However, from your original post, I thought your issue was that you
couldn't see the lists. What are the urls of the page with the issue and
the page that shows your list as inactive
(you can replace the host
name with example.com if you wish).
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 11:28 PM Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 11/22/24 11:02, Joshua Bushe wrote:
Unsure where these hide inactive or hide private boxes are located. Looked through all settings.
They are at the top of the main Hyperkitty overview page. E.g. like https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/
My lists are public, and I have nothing to hide, so let me expose my issue—which I believe is similar to that of the OP.
https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/archives/ - is empty, but there is this active list, which has archives: https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/archives/list/kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke...
I have been wondering why.
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Both "Hide Inactive" and "Hide Private" are unchecked. I can view the lists without any issues, but when I click on a specific list, I see three loading icons. On the left side, there's an "All Threads" option, which lets me view all the archives for the list.
My question is: why don’t the list appear in the "list overview"?
I also created a test list and started a new thread through the GUI, but I got the same outcome.
On 11/22/24 13:46, Joshua Bushe wrote:
Both "Hide Inactive" and "Hide Private" are unchecked. I can view the lists without any issues, but when I click on a specific list, I see three loading icons. On the left side, there's an "All Threads" option, which lets me view all the archives for the list.
My question is: why don’t the list appear in the "list overview"?
I'm still confused. You say "I can view the lists without any issues", but then you say 'why don’t the list appear in the "list overview"?' By "list overview" I thought you meant a page like https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/, but now I think you see your lists on that page and the page you call "list overview" is one like https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/dummy@mailman3.org/. If your question is why don't you see a list of threads on that page, it only shows threads with posts in the last 30 days.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
but now I think you see your lists
on that page and the page you call "list overview" is one like https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/dummy@mailman3.org/. If your question is why don't you see a list of threads on that page, it only shows threads with posts in the last 30 days.
Yes, that is exactly what I'm referring to. in my previous post i said "I also created a test list and started a new thread through the GUI, but I got the same outcome."
I did this today and its not being populated on my "treads" page. You said it will only show threads with post in the last 30 days. Still don't see it.
On 11/22/24 15:42, Joshua Bushe wrote:
Yes, that is exactly what I'm referring to. in my previous post i said "I also created a test list and started a new thread through the GUI, but I got the same outcome."
What is your Django setting for Q_CLUSTER and is qcluster running?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Q_CLUSTER = {
'timeout': 300,
'retry': 360,
'save_limit': 100,
'orm': 'default',
'poll': 5,
'workers': 4,
}
and yes Q_CLUSTER is running
Hi,
Sorry for the double reply but i'm still struggling on this. Let me try to explain it better.
This link is an example you sent earlier: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/
This link is above is the page where i can't see any of my lists outputs on my mailman3 gui. All i visually see is three loading icons spinning. Also, mark said it will only show threads with post in the last 30 days. so i made a test list and made a new thread and still the problem persists. Still see the three loading icons spinning. I've manually added the test list and also did it through the gui. Same outcome.
Is anyone having this issue or knows how to fix it?
Thanks in advance for your help!
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 08:45:02PM -0000, Joshua Bushe wrote:
This link is an example you sent earlier: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/
This link is above is the page where i can't see any of my lists outputs on my mailman3 gui. All i visually see is three loading icons spinning. Also, mark said it will only show threads with post in the last 30 days. so i made a test list and made a new thread and still the problem persists. Still see the three loading icons spinning. I've manually added the test list and also did it through the gui. Same outcome.
This is one of the things that I had few problems with. The command that I used was:
# su - list -s /usr/bin/bash -c 'python3 /usr/share/mailman3-web/manage.py hyperkitty_import -l senate@mm-test.phcomp.co.uk /tmp/senate.mbox'
• This was on a Debian system, installed via apt-get
• /tmp/senate.mbox needs to be readable by the user list
• Done after the list had been created via postorius, then I ran:
# su - list -s /usr/bin/bash -c 'mailman --run-as-root import21 senate@mm-test.phcomp.co.uk /tmp/senate.pck'
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Hi Alain,
Thanks for the reply but no luck. i did the exact steps and same outcome.
On 12/4/24 12:45, Joshua Bushe wrote:
This link is an example you sent earlier: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/
This link is above is the page where i can't see any of my lists outputs on my mailman3 gui. All i visually see is three loading icons spinning. Also, mark said it will only show threads with post in the last 30 days. so i made a test list and made a new thread and still the problem persists. Still see the three loading icons spinning. I've manually added the test list and also did it through the gui. Same outcome.
We've seen issues like this before? Are you running the django cron
tasks
<https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#cron-jobs-for-ma...>.
Sometimes the daily
jobs fix this. Also if you haven't done so,
restarting the WSGI server (uWSGI, gunicorn, Apache mod_wsgi) may help.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the continuous replies! Yes, i am running django cron tasks. I can confirm that the daily jobs are being ran but still not fixing my issue. Restarting WSGI server also didn't fix the issue. Nothing in my logs.
Thanks again, Josh
On 12/11/24 17:22, Mailman Noob wrote:
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the continuous replies! Yes, i am running django cron tasks. I can confirm that the daily jobs are being ran but still not fixing my issue. Restarting WSGI server also didn't fix the issue. Nothing in my logs.
Have you tried running django-admin clear_cache
?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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