Re: Starting new thread in Postorius -> disappears
I would suggest that there is something very broken here: there seems to be a problem with communication between the email system (mailman core…?) and HyperKitty.
On November 21, I sent the message below, as a part of this very thread, to Thor and cc’d the mailman 3 list. But the message never showed up in HyperKitty [1]. I don’t know if other list members received it in their email inboxes or not.
Thor obviously received the message (it was addressed to him directly), because he referenced it in a message that is in the archives [1]. However, I never received an email copy of his message from the list.
So, what’s going on?
What baffles me is that more people are not complaining about this. Is it just that no one has noticed? Or is it some subtle misconfiguration in my system? And in Thor’s apparently. And maybe in the lists.mailman3.org system as well.
[1] https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/6...
On 2017.11.21, at 06:31 , Cameron Smith <ccsmith@mail2.cetsi.com> wrote:
Thor,
I, too, have been struggling with messages not showing up [1], although the conditions are somewhat different.
What I have found works to make all of the messages appear is the following, which you might try:
sudo docker-compose exec mailman-web ./manage.py runjobs yearly
[1] https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/6...
On 2017.11.21, at 04:41 , Thor Atle Rustad <thor.rustad@gmail.com> wrote:
When I send a message from the Postorius interface, it is neither sent out or stored. I briefly see this message: "Your reply has been sent and is being processed.", and then nothing happens.
Cameron Smith Nanaimo, BC tel:1.604.803.0051
On 11/29/2017 05:05 PM, Cameron Smith wrote:
On November 21, I sent the message below, as a part of this very thread, to Thor and cc’d the mailman 3 list. But the message never showed up in HyperKitty [1]. I don’t know if other list members received it in their email inboxes or not.
Your post was received:
Nov 21 14:31:20 mailman postfix/cleanup[15735]: 2B3798008D: message-id=<836BFAB0-4879-4EDF-9026-FEC17D4A2BEC@mail2.cetsi.com> Nov 21 14:31:20 mailman postfix/qmgr[20545]: 2B3798008D: from=<ccsmith@mail2.cetsi.com>, size=10048, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
delivered to Mailman core:
Nov 21 14:31:20 mailman postfix/lmtp[15737]: 2B3798008D: to=<mailman-users@mailman3.org>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.31, delays=0.28/0/0/0.02, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok)
and immediately discarded:
Nov 21 14:31:21 2017 (19106) DISCARD: <836BFAB0-4879-4EDF-9026-FEC17D4A2BEC@mail2.cetsi.com>
Thor obviously received the message (it was addressed to him directly), because he referenced it in a message that is in the archives [1]. However, I never received an email copy of his message from the list.
Possibly you never received a list copy of his message because you were directly addressed and your list option "Receive list copies (possible duplicates)" is set to No.
So, what’s going on?
As to why your post was discarded, unfortunately, the logs don't give more info. There are a couple of possibilities. If your post contained an attachment with Content=Type: application/subtype where sub-type doesn't contain 'signature' it would have been discarded by a header filter rule. Also it looks like you sent the message From: <ccsmith@mail2.cetsi.com>. If that is not an address on your <ccsmith@cetsi.com> account, it would have been discarded as a non-member post.
What baffles me is that more people are not complaining about this. Is it just that no one has noticed? Or is it some subtle misconfiguration in my system? And in Thor’s apparently. And maybe in the lists.mailman3.org system as well.
I see nothing so far to indicate anything at lists.mailman3.org is broken in this respect. The only "unusual" thing is this is now a new thread <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/F...>, but presumably that is because your post was in reply to your earlier post which wasn't archived.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark,
My apologies for not investigating more thoroughly before opening my mouth (so to speak).
You are, of course, correct in your analysis of what happened to my emails, and this is not the first time that my email setup has caused me problems. I’ve added my alternate email address to my lists.mailman3.org user profile, so hopefully it won’t happen again.
On 2017.11.29, at 18:09 , Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 11/29/2017 05:05 PM, Cameron Smith wrote:
On November 21, I sent the message below, as a part of this very thread, to Thor and cc’d the mailman 3 list. But the message never showed up in HyperKitty [1]. I don’t know if other list members received it in their email inboxes or not.
Your post was received:
Nov 21 14:31:20 mailman postfix/cleanup[15735]: 2B3798008D: message-id=<836BFAB0-4879-4EDF-9026-FEC17D4A2BEC@mail2.cetsi.com> Nov 21 14:31:20 mailman postfix/qmgr[20545]: 2B3798008D: from=<ccsmith@mail2.cetsi.com>, size=10048, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
delivered to Mailman core:
Nov 21 14:31:20 mailman postfix/lmtp[15737]: 2B3798008D: to=<mailman-users@mailman3.org>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.31, delays=0.28/0/0/0.02, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok)
and immediately discarded:
Nov 21 14:31:21 2017 (19106) DISCARD: <836BFAB0-4879-4EDF-9026-FEC17D4A2BEC@mail2.cetsi.com>
Thor obviously received the message (it was addressed to him directly), because he referenced it in a message that is in the archives [1]. However, I never received an email copy of his message from the list.
Possibly you never received a list copy of his message because you were directly addressed and your list option "Receive list copies (possible duplicates)" is set to No.
So, what’s going on?
As to why your post was discarded, unfortunately, the logs don't give more info. There are a couple of possibilities. If your post contained an attachment with Content=Type: application/subtype where sub-type doesn't contain 'signature' it would have been discarded by a header filter rule. Also it looks like you sent the message From: <ccsmith@mail2.cetsi.com>. If that is not an address on your <ccsmith@cetsi.com> account, it would have been discarded as a non-member post.
What baffles me is that more people are not complaining about this. Is it just that no one has noticed? Or is it some subtle misconfiguration in my system? And in Thor’s apparently. And maybe in the lists.mailman3.org system as well.
I see nothing so far to indicate anything at lists.mailman3.org is broken in this respect. The only "unusual" thing is this is now a new thread <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/F...>, but presumably that is because your post was in reply to your earlier post which wasn't archived.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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