On 05-Jul-17 22:09, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 7/5/17 1:48 PM, David Krantz wrote:

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Is there a way of requiring all mass subscribed users to confirm their email adress? I have an use case where we have a current mail list but when moving it to mailman I for different reasons would like to confirm all subscribers. Some very shallow testing suggests that if I just add them using mass subscribe, they will not have to confirm at all.

I have yet to upgrade to 3.1 but I will do so in due time.

In MM 2.1, you just send the users invitations rather than subscribing them. In MM3/Postorius, this does not seem to be an option at present.

Actually, 2.1 lets you do it either way. The first radio button on Mass Subscriptions is:

"Subscribe these users now or invite them? "

MM 2.1 also allows control of whether the new subscribers and/or list owner are notified. And it allows custom text to be added to the invitation/notification (when one is sent).

MM3 has none of these controls. Postorious issue #203 and mailman #362 refer to the MM 2.1 regressions.

However, I read this somewhat differently: given a list with subscribers (however they were subscribed), it is sometimes useful to be able to ask the members to re-confirm their address/interest. For example, when there's a change of policy (terms of use), or when local opt-in regulations require that that opt-in be reconfirmed periodically.

It's handled out-of-band now, but this would seem to be something that Mailman could manage - change users' state to "unconfirmed" and issue the re-invite/re-subscribe notice. But there are some details: re-confirmation probably doesn't want to require moderator re-approval (at least not always). How this interacts with "don't deliver mail from this list" needs definition (probably overrides), but some members (notably moderators/owners/robots) need to be exempt. And like 2.1, the user notification needs to be different to explain that it's a re-confirmation.