So if we want to make a list announce only (e.g. only specific folks) can post, I've found I can set the list settings to automatically discard messages from members and non-members. Then I go into the individual permissions on each user to be allowed to post without moderation. This works fine, however it seems cumbersome. My expected solution was to make the announce only members moderators - however it appears being a moderator does not give any special ability to post to the list (nor does it appear to make you a 'member' from the point of mailman when sending messages to the list, since a moderator who is not a subscriber gets treated like a nonmember from the posting permissions perspective). Is this correct?
On 8/13/20 9:49 AM, joseverde@gmail.com wrote:
So if we want to make a list announce only (e.g. only specific folks) can post, I've found I can set the list settings to automatically discard messages from members and non-members. Then I go into the individual permissions on each user to be allowed to post without moderation. This works fine, however it seems cumbersome. My expected solution was to make the announce only members moderators - however it appears being a moderator does not give any special ability to post to the list (nor does it appear to make you a 'member' from the point of mailman when sending messages to the list, since a moderator who is not a subscriber gets treated like a nonmember from the posting permissions perspective). Is this correct?
Yes, your observations are correct. This is how it's always been, at least from the beginning of Mailman 2.1.
There is an alternative. Set a moderator_password for the list. Then
anyone can successfully post with an Approved: <password> header or
pseudo header if they know the password. See
<https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rules/docs/...>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark Sapiro writes:
On 8/13/20 9:49 AM, joseverde@gmail.com wrote:
So if we want to make a list announce only (e.g. only specific folks) can post, I've found I can set the list settings to automatically discard messages from members and non-members. Then I go into the individual permissions on each user to be allowed to post without moderation. This works fine, however it seems cumbersome.
Don't we have a list style for announce lists? If we don't, we should....
I don't see what's "cumbersome" about the individual permissions. You need to do *something* per allowed user, if only sending email to their individual addresses to tell them the password in the anternate method:
There is an alternative. Set a moderator_password for the list. Then anyone can successfully post with an
Approved: <password>header or pseudo header if they know the password.
Steve
On 8/13/20 9:29 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Don't we have a list style for announce lists? If we don't, we should....
We do, but it needs work. Currently all it does compared to the ordinary discussion list style is set Include the list post header to No.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
On 8/13/20 9:49 AM, joseverde@gmail.com wrote: So if we want to make a list announce only (e.g. only specific folks) can post, I've found I can set the list settings to automatically discard messages from members and non-members. Then I go into the individual permissions on each user to be allowed to post without moderation. This works fine, however it seems cumbersome. Don't we have a list style for announce lists? If we don't, we should.... I don't see what's "cumbersome" about the individual permissions. You need to do something per allowed user, if only sending email to
Mark Sapiro writes: their individual addresses to tell them the password in the anternate method:
There is an alternative. Set a moderator_password for the list. Then anyone can successfully post with an Approved: <password> header or pseudo header if they know the password. Steve
I have a few lists that I set up as announce-only lists by simply dumping all email but that from a couple of authorized members. It's a one-off deal and was trivial to set up. There are more urgent things to spend time on, IMHO. :-)
Hello Stephen, how did you create this action, to dump all emails but that of a couple of authorized members? Did you use onboard tools or did you have to create custom scripts for this? Thank you Wolfgang
On 8/14/20 3:36 AM, w.schoener@alp.dillingen.de wrote:
Hello Stephen, how did you create this action, to dump all emails but that of a couple of authorized members? Did you use onboard tools or did you have to create custom scripts for this?
See the beginning of this thread at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/D...>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
I set the Default action to take when a member posts to the list to ‘Discard.’ and set the Moderation option for the few allowed posters to ‘Accept immediately (bypass other rules).
Yours,
Allan Hansen hansen@rc.org
On Aug 14, 2020, at 3:36 , w.schoener@alp.dillingen.de wrote:
Hello Stephen, how did you create this action, to dump all emails but that of a couple of authorized members? Did you use onboard tools or did you have to create custom scripts for this? Thank you Wolfgang
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On 8/14/20 12:40 PM, Allan Hansen wrote:
I set the Default action to take when a member posts to the list to ‘Discard.’ and set the Moderation option for the few allowed posters to ‘Accept immediately (bypass other rules).
Which works until someone who wants to post to or spam the list realizes that all they need to do is spoof the From: address to be one of the addresses that sent posts that they received.
A more secore, but more tedious solution is to set the authorized poster's moderation action to hold and then approve valid posts.
Or leave everyone's moderation action at list default and post with an Approved: <password> (pseodo)header. See <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rules/docs/...>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
--On Friday, August 14, 2020 2:14 PM -0700 Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
Or leave everyone's moderation action at list default and post with an Approved: <password> (pseodo)header. See <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rules/d ocs/approved.html>.
For the OpenLDAP announce list, we set it so emergency moderation is in effect, no one is allowed to post to it without specific approval. ;)
--Quanah
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