looking for more detailed traceback for shunted message

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bob B

27 Apr 2023 27 Apr '23

8:23 p.m.

Had a message get shunted in /opt/mailman/core/var/queue/shunt/. *** but that is the location in the docker environment, which we are running.

The mailman log shows:

Apr 26 13:09:56 2023 (31) ACCEPT: 2e0e82a5-0924-1777-bed8-34862417fe7e@[Redacted] Apr 26 13:09:56 2023 (35) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 1198-1200: ordinal not in range(128) Apr 26 13:09:56 2023 (35) Traceback (most recent call last): Apr 26 13:09:56 2023 (35) SHUNTING: 1682514596.7976818+6067e5ddeb70e4aad97977071b5ed00c41999057 Apr 26 13:10:14 2023 (31) ACCEPT: 367fa8b7-97ac-58b3-fb99-458dbb951f5d@[Redacted] Apr 26 13:10:14 2023 (31) ACCEPT: 367fa8b7-97ac-58b3-fb99-458dbb951f5d@[Redacted] Apr 26 13:10:16 2023 (35) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 1198-1200: ordinal not in range(128) Apr 26 13:10:16 2023 (35) Traceback (most recent call last): Apr 26 13:10:16 2023 (35) SHUNTING: 1682514616.5346222+7292ba8b651bc1bd76a9098733a39090e092add2

Is there anyway to get more info, Is there a more detailed traceback somewhere?

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Mark Sapiro

27 Apr 27 Apr

8:33 p.m.

On 4/27/23 1:23 PM, bob B via Mailman-users wrote:

...

Had a message get shunted in /opt/mailman/core/var/queue/shunt/. *** but that is the location in the docker environment, which we are running.

The mailman log shows:

Apr 26 13:09:56 2023 (31) ACCEPT: 2e0e82a5-0924-1777-bed8-34862417fe7e@[Redacted] Apr 26 13:09:56 2023 (35) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 1198-1200: ordinal not in range(128) Apr 26 13:09:56 2023 (35) Traceback (most recent call last): Apr 26 13:09:56 2023 (35) SHUNTING: 1682514596.7976818+6067e5ddeb70e4aad97977071b5ed00c41999057 Apr 26 13:10:14 2023 (31) ACCEPT: 367fa8b7-97ac-58b3-fb99-458dbb951f5d@[Redacted] Apr 26 13:10:14 2023 (31) ACCEPT: 367fa8b7-97ac-58b3-fb99-458dbb951f5d@[Redacted] Apr 26 13:10:16 2023 (35) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 1198-1200: ordinal not in range(128) Apr 26 13:10:16 2023 (35) Traceback (most recent call last): Apr 26 13:10:16 2023 (35) SHUNTING: 1682514616.5346222+7292ba8b651bc1bd76a9098733a39090e092add2

Is there anyway to get more info, Is there a more detailed traceback somewhere?

I have never seen anything like this. There should be a complete Traceback in between the Traceback (most recent call last): line and the SHUNTING: ... line.

However, I'm pretty sure the issue is a defective email which has non-ascii bytes in an explicit or implicit ascii part.

You can see the raw message by pointing mailman qfile at the shunted .pck file(s)

-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

bob B

2 May 2 May

12:14 p.m.

Ok, thanks for looking.

Christian

10:45 p.m.

New subject: logrotate

I noticed that my mailman logfiles are not being rotated. I followed the instructions in https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-developers@python.org/message/ FM3TSMQ63JR2KROJGOSPENODOOQVRYCL/

Now when I try and run logrotate I get the following error

root@zarathustra:/opt/mailman/mm/logs# logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/logs/bounce.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/error.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/mailman.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/mailmansuite.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/smtp.log failed: No such file or directory root@zarathustra:

What am I doing wrong please?

-----Original Message----- From: bob B via Mailman-users <mailman-users@mailman3.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 5:14 AM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: looking for more detailed traceback for shunted message

Ok, thanks for looking.

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Mark Sapiro

11:37 p.m.

New subject: logrotate

Please don't hijack threads. Post a new topic as an original post, not as a reply to an old thread.

On 5/2/23 15:45, Christian via Mailman-users wrote:

...

I noticed that my mailman logfiles are not being rotated. I followed the instructions in https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-developers@python.org/message/ FM3TSMQ63JR2KROJGOSPENODOOQVRYCL/

Those instructions are for Mailman 2.1.

...

Now when I try and run logrotate I get the following error

root@zarathustra:/opt/mailman/mm/logs# logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/logs/bounce.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/error.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/mailman.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/mailmansuite.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/smtp.log failed: No such file or directory root@zarathustra:

What am I doing wrong please?

Here's a logrotate script I use:

/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/*.log {
     missingok
     sharedscripts
     su mailman mailman
     postrotate
         sudo -u mailman /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman reopen  &>/dev/null 
|| true
         if [ -r /opt/mailman/mm/var/gunicorn.pid ]; then
             PID=`cat /opt/mailman/mm/var/gunicorn.pid`
             kill -s USR1 $PID
         fi
     endscript
}

A couple of caveats. The first line of the postrotate script may be wrapped. sudo ... true is all one line.

That line could also be

/opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman --run-as-root reopen  &>/dev/null || true

I.e., it either has to run as the mailman user or specify the --run-as-root option.

Also, if logs aren't in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/ or gunicorn.pid isn't in /opt/mailman/mm/var/ those paths need adjusting.

Finally, there may be an issue with mailman reopen in the postrotate scrupt. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1078

-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

Odhiambo Washington

3 May 3 May

9:50 a.m.

New subject: logrotate

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 2:38 AM Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:

...

Please don't hijack threads. Post a new topic as an original post, not as a reply to an old thread.

On 5/2/23 15:45, Christian via Mailman-users wrote:

...
I noticed that my mailman logfiles are not being rotated. I followed the instructions in

https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-developers@python.org/message/

...
FM3TSMQ63JR2KROJGOSPENODOOQVRYCL/

Those instructions are for Mailman 2.1.

...
Now when I try and run logrotate I get the following error

root@zarathustra:/opt/mailman/mm/logs# logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/logs/bounce.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/error.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/mailman.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/mailmansuite.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/smtp.log failed: No such file or directory root@zarathustra:

What am I doing wrong please?

Here's a logrotate script I use:
/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/*.log {
     missingok
     sharedscripts
     su mailman mailman
     postrotate
         sudo -u mailman /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman reopen  &>/dev/null
|| true
         if [ -r /opt/mailman/mm/var/gunicorn.pid ]; then
             PID=`cat /opt/mailman/mm/var/gunicorn.pid`
             kill -s USR1 $PID
         fi
     endscript
}
A couple of caveats. The first line of the postrotate script may be wrapped. sudo ... true is all one line.

That line could also be
/opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman --run-as-root reopen  &>/dev/null || true
I.e., it either has to run as the mailman user or specify the --run-as-root option.

Also, if logs aren't in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/ or gunicorn.pid isn't in /opt/mailman/mm/var/ those paths need adjusting.

Finally, there may be an issue with mailman reopen in the postrotate scrupt. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1078

In my case, I took a different approach with Django's logging configuration: [snip] 'handlers': { 'file': { 'level': 'INFO', 'class': 'logging.handlers.TimedRotatingFileHandler', 'filename': '/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailmanweb.log', 'when': 'D', # specifies the interval 'interval': 1, # defaults to 1, only necessary for other values 'backupCount': 5, # how many backup file to keep, 5 days 'formatter': 'simpleRe', }, }, [snip]

I have not been rotating the other log files as my list is not a high-volume one so logs aren't growing much. Plus I only rely on the logs for diagnostics, not for records ;(

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Andrew Hodgson

11:15 a.m.

New subject: logrotate

Odhiambo Washington wrote:

...

In my case, I took a different approach with Django's logging configuration:

...

'handlers': { 'file': { 'level': 'INFO', 'class': 'logging.handlers.TimedRotatingFileHandler', 'filename': '/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/mailmanweb.log', 'when': 'D', # specifies the interval 'interval': 1, # defaults to 1, only necessary for other values 'backupCount': 5, # how many backup file to keep, 5 days 'formatter': 'simpleRe', }, },

Thanks for this suggestion. I've just implemented this on my own setup. If you're using mailman-web you can add the following lines as a minimum configuration (example):

LOGGING['handlers']['file']['class'] = 'logging.handlers.TimedRotatingFileHandler' LOGGING['handlers']['file']['when'] = 'midnight' LOGGING['handlers']['file']['backupCount'] = 5

Thanks. Andrew.

Christian

2:26 p.m.

New subject: logrotate

Thank you! Would I run your script weekly in cron or ?

-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 4:37 PM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: logrotate

Please don't hijack threads. Post a new topic as an original post, not as a reply to an old thread.

On 5/2/23 15:45, Christian via Mailman-users wrote:

...

I noticed that my mailman logfiles are not being rotated. I followed the instructions in https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-developers@python.org/me ssage/ FM3TSMQ63JR2KROJGOSPENODOOQVRYCL/

Those instructions are for Mailman 2.1.

...

Now when I try and run logrotate I get the following error

root@zarathustra:/opt/mailman/mm/logs# logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/logs/bounce.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/error.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/mailman.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/mailmansuite.log failed: No such file or directory error: stat of /opt/mailman/mm/smtp.log failed: No such file or directory root@zarathustra:

What am I doing wrong please?

Here's a logrotate script I use:

/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/*.log {
     missingok
     sharedscripts
     su mailman mailman
     postrotate
         sudo -u mailman /opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman reopen  &>/dev/null 
|| true
         if [ -r /opt/mailman/mm/var/gunicorn.pid ]; then
             PID=`cat /opt/mailman/mm/var/gunicorn.pid`
             kill -s USR1 $PID
         fi
     endscript
}

A couple of caveats. The first line of the postrotate script may be wrapped. sudo ... true is all one line.

That line could also be

/opt/mailman/mm/bin/mailman --run-as-root reopen  &>/dev/null || true ```
I.e., it either has to run as the mailman user or specify the --run-as-root
option.

Also, if logs aren't in /opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/ or gunicorn.pid isn't in
/opt/mailman/mm/var/ those paths need adjusting.

Finally, there may be an issue with `mailman reopen` in the postrotate
scrupt. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/1078

-- 
Mark Sapiro &lt;mark@msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Odhiambo Washington

2:30 p.m.

New subject: logrotate

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 5:25 PM Christian via Mailman-users < mailman-users@mailman3.org> wrote:

...

Thank you! Would I run your script weekly in cron or ?

When you create a file with those contents and place it inside /etc/logrotate.d/, then the logrotate demon will handle the rest for you. So simply:

sudo vi /etc/logrotate.d/mailman3 , put the lines in there and save. PS: Make sure the lines are not wrapped.

Christian

2:59 p.m.

New subject: global preferences

Are checks and changes to global preferences for all lists to be made via a GUI or is it editing settings.py directly please? Thank you!

Mark Sapiro

3:58 p.m.

New subject: global preferences

Again, please don't hijack threads. Post a new topic by composing a new message to mailman-users@mailman3.org, not as a reply to another list message.

On 5/3/23 07:59, Christian via Mailman-users wrote:

...

Are checks and changes to global preferences for all lists to be made via a GUI or is it editing settings.py directly please? Thank you!

You can set your global preferences via Postorius (select Mailman settings from the drop-down at the right of the top nav bar). These are the settings for the user that will apply if there is no applicable list-based or address-based setting. They are specific to the user. The defaults for these are defined in mailman/core/constants.py. They are Mailman core settings and have nothing to do with Django's settings.py.

-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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