Mailman3-Users,
First-time poster, long-time Mailman user (since August of 2002!).
I brought up a fresh install of Mailman3 via the current Debian package alongside my current 2.1 setup (installed and updated from source since 2002) on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
Importing lists from 2.1 has been a real problem.
I am trying to import a list with no archives to keep it simple while I prove out the process. If I run the mailman import21 comment as my user, I get the following errors:
— mark@mail:/tmp$ mailman import21 announce@pdc-racing.net ./announce-config.pck Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/mailman", line 11, in <module> load_entry_point('mailman==3.1.1', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 94, in main initialize(config_path) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 189, in initialize initialize_2(propagate_logs=propagate_logs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 152, in initialize_2 mailman.core.logging.initialize(propagate_logs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 157, in initialize _init_logger(propagate, sub_name, log, logger_config) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 110, in _init_logger handler = ReopenableFileHandler(sub_name, path_abs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 50, in __init__ self._stream = self._open() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 53, in _open return codecs.open(self.filename, 'a', 'utf-8') File "/usr/lib/python3.6/codecs.py", line 897, in open file = builtins.open(filename, mode, buffering) PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/mailman3/mailman.log' Error in atexit._run_exitfuncs: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.6/logging/__init__.py", line 1945, in shutdown h.flush() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 56, in flush if self._stream: AttributeError: 'ReopenableFileHandler' object has no attribute '_stream' —
If I run it as root, it runs for a long time but spews a HUGE stream of these errors to /var/log/mailman3/mailman.log:
— Oct 03 17:08:48 2019 (19118) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1570147727.3029191+80f1cc4d18f54868ad6162e8e41e52567185e983 Oct 03 17:08:49 2019 (19118) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147728.618866+174175d39c301feab4ebb2aac0a51226334fa54c.pck' Oct 03 17:08:49 2019 (19118) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/runner.py", line 156, in _one_iteration msg, msgdata = self.switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/switchboard.py", line 150, in dequeue with open(filename, 'rb') as fp: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147728.618866+174175d39c301feab4ebb2aac0a51226334fa54c.pck' Oct 03 17:08:49 2019 (19118) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1570147728.618866+174175d39c301feab4ebb2aac0a51226334fa54c Oct 03 17:08:50 2019 (19118) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147729.8732843+1cd24522f62dbd73c759a0f9a749a2ed63c91668.pck' Oct 03 17:08:50 2019 (19118) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/runner.py", line 156, in _one_iteration msg, msgdata = self.switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/switchboard.py", line 150, in dequeue with open(filename, 'rb') as fp: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147729.8732843+1cd24522f62dbd73c759a0f9a749a2ed63c91668.pck' Oct 03 17:08:50 2019 (19118) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1570147729.8732843+1cd24522f62dbd73c759a0f9a749a2ed63c91668 Oct 03 17:08:51 2019 (19118) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147731.1456919+4354e647280c69f4dbfbd5a158b682fe3ed6cbcf.pck' Oct 03 17:08:51 2019 (19118) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/runner.py", line 156, in _one_iteration msg, msgdata = self.switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/switchboard.py", line 150, in dequeue with open(filename, 'rb') as fp: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147731.1456919+4354e647280c69f4dbfbd5a158b682fe3ed6cbcf.pck' Oct 03 17:08:51 2019 (19118) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1570147731.1456919+4354e647280c69f4dbfbd5a158b682fe3ed6cbcf Oct 03 17:08:53 2019 (19118) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147732.4526153+f423b0ba2693b41ffc3f829da2290639634c349d.pck' Oct 03 17:08:53 2019 (19118) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/runner.py", line 156, in _one_iteration msg, msgdata = self.switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/switchboard.py", line 150, in dequeue with open(filename, 'rb') as fp: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147732.4526153+f423b0ba2693b41ffc3f829da2290639634c349d.pck' Oct 03 17:08:53 2019 (19118) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1570147732.4526153+f423b0ba2693b41ffc3f829da2290639634c349d —
It also dumps some mail footer templates into the template directory that are owned by root, which seems … incorrect?
Any thoughts on what’s going wrong here?
Many thanks in advance! Really looking forward to having modern archives!
- Mark
mark@pdc-racing.net | 408-348-2878
On 10/3/19 5:17 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote:
I brought up a fresh install of Mailman3 via the current Debian package alongside my current 2.1 setup (installed and updated from source since 2002) on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
Importing lists from 2.1 has been a real problem.
I am trying to import a list with no archives to keep it simple while I prove out the process. If I run the mailman import21 comment as my user, I get the following errors:
— mark@mail:/tmp$ mailman import21 announce@pdc-racing.net ./announce-config.pck Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/mailman", line 11, in <module> load_entry_point('mailman==3.1.1', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 94, in main initialize(config_path) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 189, in initialize initialize_2(propagate_logs=propagate_logs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 152, in initialize_2 mailman.core.logging.initialize(propagate_logs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 157, in initialize _init_logger(propagate, sub_name, log, logger_config) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 110, in _init_logger handler = ReopenableFileHandler(sub_name, path_abs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 50, in __init__ self._stream = self._open() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 53, in _open return codecs.open(self.filename, 'a', 'utf-8') File "/usr/lib/python3.6/codecs.py", line 897, in open file = builtins.open(filename, mode, buffering) PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/mailman3/mailman.log'
This is the issue. I don't know how the Debian packages do this, but I recommend having a 'mailman' user that owns everything and running commands as that user.
Error in atexit._run_exitfuncs: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.6/logging/__init__.py", line 1945, in shutdown h.flush() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 56, in flush if self._stream: AttributeError: 'ReopenableFileHandler' object has no attribute '_stream'
This is due to the prior permissions error.
If I run it as root, it runs for a long time but spews a HUGE stream of these errors to /var/log/mailman3/mailman.log:
If there are a lot of members to add, that can take a long time. The current version of import21 has a progress thermometer for this.
— Oct 03 17:08:48 2019 (19118) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1570147727.3029191+80f1cc4d18f54868ad6162e8e41e52567185e983 Oct 03 17:08:49 2019 (19118) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147728.618866+174175d39c301feab4ebb2aac0a51226334fa54c.pck' Oct 03 17:08:49 2019 (19118) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/runner.py", line 156, in _one_iteration msg, msgdata = self.switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/switchboard.py", line 150, in dequeue with open(filename, 'rb') as fp: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147728.618866+174175d39c301feab4ebb2aac0a51226334fa54c.pck'
First, I don't know what these messages are. Normally import21 doesn't send any mail. I'm guessing it's trying to send 'you are subscribed' notices to the users, but it shouldn't be doing this.
All these files should wind up in Mailman's var/queue/bad/ directory with a .psv extension. You should be able to examine them with the 'mailman qfile' command.
Whatever they are, the error comes from virgin runner so import21 should have actually succeeded. Did it import the list?
It also dumps some mail footer templates into the template directory that are owned by root, which seems … incorrect?
It makes a weak effort at converting the list's msg_footer and digest_footer into MM 3 templates in templates/list/<list-id>/<list-lang>/. These are owned by root in your case because you ran import21 as root.
Any thoughts on what’s going wrong here?
It looks like this may be an issue with the Debian package, at least the sending of messages part.
As for the rest, the Debian package should install stuff as a Mailman user, perhaps 'mailman' or 'list', and you should be running all commands as that user.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark Sapiro:
On 10/3/19 5:17 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote:
I am trying to import a list with no archives to keep it simple while I prove out the process. If I run the mailman import21 comment as my user, I get the following errors:
— mark@mail:/tmp$ mailman import21 announce@pdc-racing.net ./announce-config.pck Traceback (most recent call last): [...] PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/mailman3/mailman.log'
This is the issue. I don't know how the Debian packages do this, but I recommend having a 'mailman' user that owns everything and running commands as that user.
The Debian package uses user list for this. It also provides a command
mailman-wrapper which takes care of running mailman commands as this user.
It would be awesome if the upstream /usr/bin/mailman command could take care of this automatically, making the wrapper command obsolete.
Cheers jonas
Jonas Meurer writes:
This is the issue. I don't know how the Debian packages do this, but I recommend having a 'mailman' user that owns everything and running commands as that user.
The Debian package uses user
listfor this. It also provides a commandmailman-wrapperwhich takes care of running mailman commands as this user.It would be awesome if the upstream /usr/bin/mailman command could take care of this automatically, making the wrapper command obsolete.
What precisely is "this"? We already have the mailman command; are you suggesting it should be suid/sgid mailman/list/whatever? That's pretty obviously a vulnerability. If there are any RCEs *anywhere* on your host, your Mailman is pwned. If you know your installation is secure enough or you just don't care, fine, chmod it yourself.
If not, how do you propose upstream "take care of it?"
Steve
-- Associate Professor Division of Policy and Planning Science http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/ Faculty of Systems and Information Email: turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tel: 029-853-5175 Tennodai 1-1-1, Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Jonas Meurer writes:
This is the issue. I don't know how the Debian packages do this, but I recommend having a 'mailman' user that owns everything and running commands as that user.
The Debian package uses user
listfor this. It also provides a commandmailman-wrapperwhich takes care of running mailman commands as this user.
Is this wrapper a sort of alias to sudo -u list mailman or something more than that?
It would be awesome if the upstream /usr/bin/mailman command could take care of this automatically, making the wrapper command obsolete.
What precisely is "this"? We already have the mailman command; are you suggesting it should be suid/sgid mailman/list/whatever? That's pretty obviously a vulnerability. If there are any RCEs *anywhere* on your host, your Mailman is pwned. If you know your installation is secure enough or you just don't care, fine, chmod it yourself.
If not, how do you propose upstream "take care of it?"
Steve
-- Associate Professor Division of Policy and Planning Science http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/ Faculty of Systems and Information Email: turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tel: 029-853-5175 Tennodai 1-1-1, Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN
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Hi Stephen,
Stephen J. Turnbull:
This is the issue. I don't know how the Debian packages do this, but I recommend having a 'mailman' user that owns everything and running commands as that user.
The Debian package uses user
listfor this. It also provides a commandmailman-wrapperwhich takes care of running mailman commands as this user.It would be awesome if the upstream /usr/bin/mailman command could take care of this automatically, making the wrapper command obsolete.
What precisely is "this"? We already have the mailman command; are you suggesting it should be suid/sgid mailman/list/whatever? That's pretty obviously a vulnerability. If there are any RCEs *anywhere* on your host, your Mailman is pwned. If you know your installation is secure enough or you just don't care, fine, chmod it yourself.
If not, how do you propose upstream "take care of it?"
Good question. Two options come into my mind:
- Provide a sudoers include file and make the mailmman command use sudo to run the actual commands as user mailman/list/whatever.
- Check if the command is run under expected UID/GID and error out if not. Probably a commandline argument to ignore this check would be required in that case.
I don't consider either of those solutions particularly clean. But it's a matter of fact that people will run mailman commands as user root, which results in logfiles, list files, etc. being created with owner root. Which in turn leads to errors since the mailman daemon is unable to further write to those files.
Cheers jonas
Jonas Meurer writes:
Good question. Two options come into my mind:
- Provide a sudoers include file and make the mailmman command use sudo to run the actual commands as user mailman/list/whatever.
I would oppose this strongly. The problem occurs only file creation time; we should not provide more privileges than necessary whether via sudo or suid.
- Check if the command is run under expected UID/GID and error out if not.
This would be acceptable.
Probably a commandline argument to ignore this check would be required in that case.
If useful, this would be just as bad as the current circumstance. Who would remember that option exists?
I don't consider either of those solutions particularly clean. But it's a matter of fact that people will run mailman commands as user root, which results in logfiles, list files, etc. being created with owner root. Which in turn leads to errors since the mailman daemon is unable to further write to those files.
If permissions on Mailman-created files is the problem, the short-run response is "I guess you got root? fix it yourself." :-/
In the longer-run, creating those files with the appropriate ownership should solve the problem, since writing to an existing file doesn't change its ownership. This can be done at installation (and may require alteration to Mailman and/or log-rotation utilities to not (re)move such files, but rather to copy and truncate them).
Another possibility would be to set appropriate ownership and the suid bit on the appropriate directories (though this would not necessarily provide the appropriate group, I don't know if that's an issue). This is probably the most straightforward fix in terms of code, as well.
Steve
Thanks for the al the help - much appreciated! Mailman3 is a HUGE step up from 2.1.x.
Running the commands as the correct user solved my issues. Specially, I ran the import21 command as the “list” user (created by the debian/ubuntu package) and the hyperkitty import command as the “www-data” user. I had to add login shells to the passwd entries for those users to make it happen as they get installed with nologin.
I imported a 24G archive inbox and something went wrong along the way - the archives for many months consist of just a single identical thread. Re-running the import results in the following in just a few seconds:
www-data@mail:/tmp$ python /usr/share/mailman3-web/manage.py hyperkitty_import -l trackjunkies@pdc-racing.net /backups/trackjunkies.mbox Importing from mbox file /backups/trackjunkies.mbox to trackjunkies@pdc-racing.net Computing thread structure Synchronizing properties with Mailman Warming up cache The full-text search index will be updated every minute. Run the 'manage.py runjob update_index' command to update it now.
Any thoughts on how I can re-run the full import to make sure that all the archives are present?
Thanks!
- Mark
mark@pdc-racing.net | 408-348-2878
On Oct 3, 2019, at 9:25 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 10/3/19 5:17 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote:
I brought up a fresh install of Mailman3 via the current Debian package alongside my current 2.1 setup (installed and updated from source since 2002) on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
Importing lists from 2.1 has been a real problem.
I am trying to import a list with no archives to keep it simple while I prove out the process. If I run the mailman import21 comment as my user, I get the following errors:
— mark@mail:/tmp$ mailman import21 announce@pdc-racing.net ./announce-config.pck Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/mailman", line 11, in <module> load_entry_point('mailman==3.1.1', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 94, in main initialize(config_path) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 189, in initialize initialize_2(propagate_logs=propagate_logs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 152, in initialize_2 mailman.core.logging.initialize(propagate_logs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 157, in initialize _init_logger(propagate, sub_name, log, logger_config) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 110, in _init_logger handler = ReopenableFileHandler(sub_name, path_abs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 50, in __init__ self._stream = self._open() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 53, in _open return codecs.open(self.filename, 'a', 'utf-8') File "/usr/lib/python3.6/codecs.py", line 897, in open file = builtins.open(filename, mode, buffering) PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/mailman3/mailman.log'
This is the issue. I don't know how the Debian packages do this, but I recommend having a 'mailman' user that owns everything and running commands as that user.
Error in atexit._run_exitfuncs: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.6/logging/__init__.py", line 1945, in shutdown h.flush() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/logging.py", line 56, in flush if self._stream: AttributeError: 'ReopenableFileHandler' object has no attribute '_stream'
This is due to the prior permissions error.
If I run it as root, it runs for a long time but spews a HUGE stream of these errors to /var/log/mailman3/mailman.log:
If there are a lot of members to add, that can take a long time. The current version of import21 has a progress thermometer for this.
— Oct 03 17:08:48 2019 (19118) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1570147727.3029191+80f1cc4d18f54868ad6162e8e41e52567185e983 Oct 03 17:08:49 2019 (19118) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147728.618866+174175d39c301feab4ebb2aac0a51226334fa54c.pck' Oct 03 17:08:49 2019 (19118) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/runner.py", line 156, in _one_iteration msg, msgdata = self.switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/core/switchboard.py", line 150, in dequeue with open(filename, 'rb') as fp: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman3/queue/virgin/1570147728.618866+174175d39c301feab4ebb2aac0a51226334fa54c.pck'
First, I don't know what these messages are. Normally import21 doesn't send any mail. I'm guessing it's trying to send 'you are subscribed' notices to the users, but it shouldn't be doing this.
All these files should wind up in Mailman's var/queue/bad/ directory with a .psv extension. You should be able to examine them with the 'mailman qfile' command.
Whatever they are, the error comes from virgin runner so import21 should have actually succeeded. Did it import the list?
It also dumps some mail footer templates into the template directory that are owned by root, which seems … incorrect?
It makes a weak effort at converting the list's msg_footer and digest_footer into MM 3 templates in templates/list/<list-id>/<list-lang>/. These are owned by root in your case because you ran import21 as root.
Any thoughts on what’s going wrong here?
It looks like this may be an issue with the Debian package, at least the sending of messages part.
As for the rest, the Debian package should install stuff as a Mailman user, perhaps 'mailman' or 'list', and you should be running all commands as that user.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On 10/5/19 11:30 AM, Mark Dadgar wrote:
Running the commands as the correct user solved my issues. Specially, I ran the import21 command as the “list” user (created by the debian/ubuntu package) and the hyperkitty import command as the “www-data” user. I had to add login shells to the passwd entries for those users to make it happen as they get installed with nologin.
You could just run, e.g., sudo -u list bin/mailman import21 ... which
will work even if 'list' can't log in.
I imported a 24G archive inbox and something went wrong along the way - the archives for many months consist of just a single identical thread. Re-running the import results in the following in just a few seconds: ... Any thoughts on how I can re-run the full import to make sure that all the archives are present?
As far as reimporting the entire archive, you need the --since option. As it says in hyperkitty_import --help
--since SINCE only import emails later than this date. Defaults to the date of the newest message in the existing archive if any.
If you run hyperkitty_import --since=1990-01-01, that should do it.
As far as "the archives for many months consist of just a single identical thread", were there error messages when you ran the initial import? Were there issues in the imported mbox that you have corrected? Mailman 2.1's bin/cleanarch can help identify unescaped 'From ' lines that cause problems.
If unescaped 'From ' lines is the issue and you have fixed them, rerunning the import should import the messages correctly, but it won't delete the bogus threads. You can delete these threads manually in HyperKitty if you are logged in as a Django superuser.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Oct 5, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
You could just run, e.g.,
sudo -u list bin/mailman import21 ...which will work even if 'list' can't log in.
That’s what I get for being old school and just su’ing to the user. Thanks.
If you run hyperkitty_import --since=1990-01-01, that should do it.
Awesome - rerunning now. Thank you.
As far as "the archives for many months consist of just a single identical thread", were there error messages when you ran the initial import? Were there issues in the imported mbox that you have corrected? Mailman 2.1's bin/cleanarch can help identify unescaped 'From ' lines that cause problems.
Yes, I ran the archive mbox through cleanarch before importing it. It’s a 24GB mbox file with 17 years of archives for a very active mailing list.
If unescaped 'From ' lines is the issue and you have fixed them, rerunning the import should import the messages correctly, but it won't delete the bogus threads. You can delete these threads manually in HyperKitty if you are logged in as a Django superuser.
Great - thank you.
I see the occasional “table is locked” error (I am running against sqlite because I only run a couple of lists and I was having issues getting the postgres config working) so it skips the occasional message. We’ll see what happens this time.
Your help is much appreciated.
- Mark
mark@pdc-racing.net | 408-348-2878
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