On 10/25/20 8:22 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

Hi Team,

          I am currently running Mailman 3 with version 3.3.2rc2 and in

built postfix version 2.10.1-6 on RHEL 7.5 with PostgreSQL 11.9 version with default values. As of now, we don't have any lists and just installed software components only.

          After the installation and configuration, I have tried

creating the domains and lists. I was successful in creating them but when I tried to login and browse the lists using LDAP authentication, I am getting the "Mailman REST API not available. Restart Mailman core".

          I see the below trace in the mailmansuite.log.

*Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/venv3/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/base.py", line 119, in __getattr__ return self._get(name) File "/var/lib/mailman/venv3/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/mailmanclient/restbase/base.py", line 86, in _get raise KeyError(key)KeyError: 'get_requests_count

...

           I don't see any error messages in the mailman.log. And I

also executed a few curl commands in getting the details of the lists created and list info which I got their results successfully.

          Could you please guide where exactly I am missing or do I

need to make any changes in my customizations ?

I think the issue is your mailmanclient is too old. The version of Postorius you are running requires mailmanclient >3.3.1 which is only available from GitLab https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient.

What version of Postorius is this? It appears to be >1.3.3. If you install Postorius from unreleased code on GitLab, you have to install all of mailman, mailmanclient and django-mailman3 as well.

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On 10/26/20 6:10 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

       How to find out the versions of the each and every component

of the mailman 3 like mailman core, mailmancilent, postorius, hyperikitty, mailman-hyperkitty, django-mailman3, mailman-suite and so, after installation?

cd to the directory in which you cloned the gitlab project for the component and do git log

        If I am running an old mailmanclient or older version of any

other mailman component, please suggest how to upgrade either one or multiple components based on the requirement. Is there any link that would help me to upgrade ?

        I have used the

link https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/devsetup.html to install the mailman 3 components. I expected that the procedure followed in this link would install the latest versions of the mailman 3 components. Please correct me if I am wrong. Is there any latest version compatibility table ?

If you installed each of mailman, mailmanclient, django-mailman3, postorius and hyperkitty according to instructions like

$ cd ~/mailman $ git clone https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient.git

Then set up mailmanclient:

$ cd mailmanclient $ python setup.py develop $ cd ..

from that document, you should have the latest version. If that is the case, git log in the mailmanclient directory should begin like

commit aaa529808e2d61899f90509da4ea802a70d2c8ff (HEAD -> master, origin/master, origin/HEAD) Merge: ff39dd8 8670751 Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in Date: Thu Oct 15 01:09:32 2020 +0000

Merge branch 'fix-ci' into 'master'

Use GHCR for the CI image

See merge request mailman/mailmanclient!130

commit 8670751caff689733751ef323ef521c4a3fa1237 Author: Abhilash Raj raj.abhilash1@gmail.com Date: Wed Oct 14 17:36:58 2020 -0700

Use GHCR for the CI image

commit ff39dd8f03a820f442f2251553c444370df3b914 Merge: 80ebed4 76d44e1 Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in Date: Fri Aug 7 19:35:05 2020 +0000

Merge branch 'invite' into 'master'

Add support for inviting an email address to join a list.

See merge request mailman/mailmanclient!129

or if you did this before Oct 15, maybe it starts with commit ff39dd8f03a820f442f2251553c444370df3b914

The particular commit you need for your issue is

commit 86eb0da3cdb48e253b0d36138ab7cf91259a7583 Merge: c8dcb1e 28d1c3a Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in Date: Sat May 16 08:02:21 2020 +0000

Merge branch 'held-count' into 'master'

Add a new get_held_count() API to get a count of held messages.

See merge request mailman/mailmanclient!122

Note that unless you intend to do actual development of Mailman 3, you should be following https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html rather than https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/devsetup.html.

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Hi Mark,

        Any suggestions over my earlier email? I am waiting for your

reply.

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 1:16 PM Shashikanth Komandoor < shashikanth.komandoor@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mark,

        Thank you for your help. I have traced the versions of

different components of mailman 3. I am downloading through GIT LAB because I need to modify the code according to my organization's requirements like to add SMS notifications when a mail is waiting for pending approval and so.

        With your help, I have found out the commits I am using in my

environment. I got them using the way you suggested "git log". That may be helpful for you to help dummies like me.

*### Mailman Core Version ###*

*commit 437cb49ffc29ef8960ef26d18bd883ed5aa61ded* *Merge: 98cf97b 0bca998* *Author: Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net>* *Date: Thu Oct 15 14:02:36 2020 -0700*

• Merge branch 'template' into 'master'*

• Clarify the posting instruction in the list welcome message.*

• See merge request mailman/mailman!723*

*### django-mailman3 Version ###*

*commit d9e675e5cc1b966f9cd02b2e492649972f8ddc40* *Merge: ea2b33a c091e43* *Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in>* *Date: Thu Oct 15 00:40:51 2020 +0000*

• Merge branch 'fix-ci' into 'master'*

• Use GHCR for the CI image*

• See merge request mailman/django-mailman3!108*

*### Hyperkitty Version ###*

*commit 36f43466763c2686cf4d69c982ea64b956c30939* *Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in>* *Date: Mon Oct 5 04:54:44 2020 +0000*

• Use GH registry to pull CI image.*

*### Mailmanclient Version ###*

*commit aaa529808e2d61899f90509da4ea802a70d2c8ff* *Merge: ff39dd8 8670751* *Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in>* *Date: Thu Oct 15 01:09:32 2020 +0000*

• Merge branch 'fix-ci' into 'master'*

• Use GHCR for the CI image*

• See merge request mailman/mailmanclient!130*

*### Mailman Hyperkitty Version ###*

*commit 87db8b03cc4ceba8ef8eafedeaaf11f99f2e50e0* *Merge: 35ff801 04deff5* *Author: Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net>* *Date: Fri Jun 19 18:15:57 2020 +0000*

• Merge branch 'fix_25' into 'master'*

• Add a test for the presence of surrogates in the stringified message.*

• Closes #25*

• See merge request mailman/mailman-hyperkitty!7*

*### Mailman-suite Version ###*

*commit 3b8780f26d544cb333970eae43ccffc7e34314aa* *Merge: 74e7927 4463b31* *Author: Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net>* *Date: Sat May 30 00:32:40 2020 +0000*

• Merge branch 'doc_mb4' into 'master'*

• Added comment about OPTIONS = {'charset': 'utf8mb4'} to settings.py.*

• See merge request mailman/mailman-suite!8*

*### Postorius Version ###*

*commit 02e3183c3cd9e069d8d886426b76b08504ea5e1e* *Merge: 61242d2 321310c* *Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in>* *Date: Thu Oct 15 00:43:14 2020 +0000*

• Merge branch 'fix-ci' into 'master'*

• Use the GHCR registry for CI image.*

• See merge request mailman/postorius!549*

  I have removed only mailmanclient and re-cloned it from gitlab and ran the python setup.py develop command. But still the same error.

  Is there anything else I can do to get rid of that error.

Thanks in advance.

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 6:56 AM Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net wrote:

...

On 10/26/20 6:10 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

...

       How to find out the versions of the each and every component

of the mailman 3 like mailman core, mailmancilent, postorius, hyperikitty, mailman-hyperkitty, django-mailman3, mailman-suite and so, after installation?

cd to the directory in which you cloned the gitlab project for the component and do git log

...

        If I am running an old mailmanclient or older version of any

other mailman component, please suggest how to upgrade either one or multiple components based on the requirement. Is there any link that would help me to upgrade ?

        I have used the

link https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/devsetup.html to install the mailman 3 components. I expected that the procedure followed in this link would install the latest versions of the mailman 3 components. Please correct me if I am wrong. Is there any latest version compatibility table ?

If you installed each of mailman, mailmanclient, django-mailman3, postorius and hyperkitty according to instructions like

$ cd ~/mailman $ git clone https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient.git

Then set up mailmanclient:

$ cd mailmanclient $ python setup.py develop $ cd ..

from that document, you should have the latest version. If that is the case, git log in the mailmanclient directory should begin like

commit aaa529808e2d61899f90509da4ea802a70d2c8ff (HEAD -> master, origin/master, origin/HEAD) Merge: ff39dd8 8670751 Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in Date: Thu Oct 15 01:09:32 2020 +0000

Merge branch 'fix-ci' into 'master'

Use GHCR for the CI image

See merge request mailman/mailmanclient!130

commit 8670751caff689733751ef323ef521c4a3fa1237 Author: Abhilash Raj raj.abhilash1@gmail.com Date: Wed Oct 14 17:36:58 2020 -0700

Use GHCR for the CI image

commit ff39dd8f03a820f442f2251553c444370df3b914 Merge: 80ebed4 76d44e1 Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in Date: Fri Aug 7 19:35:05 2020 +0000

Merge branch 'invite' into 'master'

Add support for inviting an email address to join a list.

See merge request mailman/mailmanclient!129

or if you did this before Oct 15, maybe it starts with commit ff39dd8f03a820f442f2251553c444370df3b914

The particular commit you need for your issue is

commit 86eb0da3cdb48e253b0d36138ab7cf91259a7583 Merge: c8dcb1e 28d1c3a Author: Abhilash Raj maxking@asynchronous.in Date: Sat May 16 08:02:21 2020 +0000

Merge branch 'held-count' into 'master'

Add a new get_held_count() API to get a count of held messages.

See merge request mailman/mailmanclient!122

Note that unless you intend to do actual development of Mailman 3, you should be following https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html rather than https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/devsetup.html.

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-- Thanks & Regards, Shashi Kanth.K 9052671936

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I am extremely *sorry* Mark. As I was put under pressure with a timeline, I have reminded you over anxiety.

I should not have disturbed such a good helper.

Sorry once again.

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 9:24 AM Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net wrote:

On 10/27/20 6:27 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

...

Hi Mark,

        Any suggestions over my earlier email? I am waiting for your

reply.

Be patient. I am a volunteer and I have a life outside of Mailman.

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Thank you Mark for your response.

All the mentioned versions of all the components are taken from my currently running system only in which I am facing the issue.

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:54 AM Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net wrote:

On 10/27/20 12:46 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

...

*### Mailmanclient Version ###*

*commit aaa529808e2d61899f90509da4ea802a70d2c8ff* *Merge: ff39dd8 8670751* *Author: Abhilash Raj

...

• *Date: Thu Oct 15 01:09:32 2020 +0000*

This mailmanclient is up to date and does define the get_requests_count mailing list attribute, so this version must not be whats running in your mailman installation. Did you install it?

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Can I go back to any previous version which is felt as working fine ?

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:43 AM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen.fw@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:

Mark Sapiro writes:

...

I think the issue is your mailmanclient is too old. The version of Postorius you are running requires mailmanclient >3.3.1 which is only available from GitLab https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient.

What version of Postorius is this? It appears to be >1.3.3. If you install Postorius from unreleased code on GitLab, you have to install all of mailman, mailmanclient and django-mailman3 as well.

Shouldn't Postorius's setup.py be checking for this?

Steve

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On 10/27/20 11:20 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

Can I go back to any previous version which is felt as working fine ?

Sure.

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Though you are for sure that the current versions as I am claiming the above one is perfectly without any issue, please also suggest what would be the best previous version which definitely does not have that issue because I even checked out the immediate previous version of mailmanclient but still I am getting the same error.

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:13 PM Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net wrote:

On 10/27/20 11:20 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

...

Can I go back to any previous version which is felt as working fine ?

Sure.

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On 10/27/20 11:47 PM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

I have run the below commands for sure:

$ cd mailmanclient $ python setup.py develop

And as you have suggested, I navigate to mailmanclient directory and ran the git log to provide you the version output.

And I am fairly certain that the running Mailman/Postorius installation is not using those files. I can't tell you why this is the case, but if it weren't, you wouldn't be seeing this error.

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On 10/28/20 12:08 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:

I tried this way but in this method I don't find any files to edit for my customizations like

1. Removal of social accounts,
2. Addition of SMS integration and so.

If I can do my required customizations through pip installation I am fine with that.

If you follow the instructions for installing in a virtualenv, in say /opt/mailman/venv, all the component files will be in /opt/mailman/venv/lib/python3.x/site-packages

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On 10/27/20 11:12 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Mark Sapiro writes:

...

What version of Postorius is this? It appears to be >1.3.3. If you install Postorius from unreleased code on GitLab, you have to install all of mailman, mailmanclient and django-mailman3 as well.

Shouldn't Postorius's setup.py be checking for this?

Perhaps, but we're talking about an unreleased development version of Postorius requiring a specific unreleased commit of mailmanclient

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