Basic settings for a discussion list
Over the last 20 hours I have been trying to figure out setup for list members to sign up. One person has kindly helped out, though I am still unsure of the difference between the several signups. That thread is here and I welcome more advice.
https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/S...
But it occurs to me that my problem is that I have not actually configured my list. So this thread is for help on that. I have found a guide for general users here: http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/userguide.html
But I have only found a highly technical guide for administrators here: https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailmanclient/en/latest/src/mailmanclient...
It is written for coders and I am looking for a guide similar to the one for users. It seems not to exist yet.
WHAT I WANT Discussion only list. Ideally anyone who signs up via the various ways should be able to get the archives and post via email and the interface if they want. The list should be closed to others.
In the absence of any guide, all I can do is cross check with you guys and hope I am on the right track. I am non technical, although I managed a Mailman 2 list without difficulty.
- FIRST ANOMALY Under https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ I see myself twice:
List Name Subscription Address Delivery Mode Role discuss.list.tokyoprogressive.org paul@tokyoprogressive.org None member discuss.list.tokyoprogressive.org paul@tokyoprogressive.org regular owner
Is this correct? I added My name in one field somewhere and this is the result. I even got a welcome message. I think it is because I subscribed to my own list.If this was not necessary, what should I do?
Global based preferences are listed. Address and email based ones are not showing either enabled or disabled.
- MANAGE LISTS
For myself I have done the following in my MAILING LIST SETTINGS
Subscribe to this list My email and name (Maybe that is why i am listed twice)
Now I see
Users For now only me- I am listed as member and owner. There will be no other moderators or owners I have no idea what a non member is (if they register aren't they a member?)
Templates This is showing nothing at this point. Before it was. I am not sure what i did to stop it from showing. Perhaps because I made it a private list?
Settings a) List identity I have it set for NOT SHOWING on the Index page because I will link to it from my news magazine website as a way to comment on articles. Is this ok? Other data will be filled in later. I think I am confusing this with private list. I also will have no other list.
b) AUTO RESPOND LIST OWNER-- I added a short note thanking people. Respond and Continue Processing
c) AUTO RESPOND POSTER--Your message has been been received. If you are a member, it should be posted soon. Respond and Continue Processing
d) AUTO RESPOND REQUESTS--No auto response OTHER THINGS DEFAULT
e) URL WELCOME MESSAGE--NOT SURE. I want people to subscribe themselves but I also have 500 people from another list from DADA I will import. I want them automatically be able to post. Is it possible? If so, I hope to add them manually. DO I compose a text on my website and welcome them by adding the URL, or enter it in my list?
f) NOTIFY OF MEMBERSHIP CHANGES--Yes
g) ALTER MESSAGES ---I have left most things as they are. However, as this is a discussion list, I want replies ONLY to go to the list. I chose that.
h) DMARC --I have left as is
i) DIGEST--I have left as is
MASS OPERATIONS--I have left as is
BAN--left as is
MESSAGE ACCEPTANCE--I have left as is
HEADER FILTERS--left as is
ARCHIVES--Private Archives (Maybe this is why templates do not show???)
SUBSCRIPTION POLICY--MODERATE-- I intend to send them an email to confirm their reasons for subscribing to avoid spammers.
LAST THING. My Gravity does not work. I edited it online as per instructions but it does not appear.
That is all I can think of.
Thanks in advance.
paul
OK. Using 2 other emails I found the difference between the short form sign up and the actual subscription.
The actual subscription allows one to see the archives and post from the web. The short form does not allow that, but you can post from your email.
The way it reads is a bit confusing:
Subscription / Unsubscription To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list, please log in first.
You can also subscribe without creating an account.
It is not clear that in the former case you can use the web interface and n the latter you cannot until/unless if you later go back and do that.
I would suggest using "To subscribe and be able to see the archives as well as post from there..".for #1 and To subscribe to receive and post via email only (not as convenient) for #2
Also with regard to moderate ( SUBSCRIPTION POLICY--MODERATE), it seems only to work for those who do not do the full signup. Those who register with a password automatically appear as members in my two tests. I was glad I could moderate the one email address that applied by the form at the bottom, but I had hoped I could moderate all registrations. Not possible?
On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, at 9:25 PM, paul@arenson.org wrote:
Over the last 20 hours I have been trying to figure out setup for list members to sign up. One person has kindly helped out, though I am still unsure of the difference between the several signups. That thread is here and I welcome more advice.
https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/S...
But it occurs to me that my problem is that I have not actually configured my list. So this thread is for help on that. I have found a guide for general users here: http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/userguide.html
But I have only found a highly technical guide for administrators here: https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailmanclient/en/latest/src/mailmanclient...
It is written for coders and I am looking for a guide similar to the one for users. It seems not to exist yet.
WHAT I WANT Discussion only list. Ideally anyone who signs up via the various ways should be able to get the archives and post via email and the interface if they want. The list should be closed to others.
In the absence of any guide, all I can do is cross check with you guys and hope I am on the right track. I am non technical, although I managed a Mailman 2 list without difficulty.
- FIRST ANOMALY Under https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ I see myself twice:
List Name Subscription Address Delivery Mode Role discuss.list.tokyoprogressive.org paul@tokyoprogressive.org None member discuss.list.tokyoprogressive.org paul@tokyoprogressive.org regular owner
Is this correct? I added My name in one field somewhere and this is the result. I even got a welcome message. I think it is because I subscribed to my own list.If this was not necessary, what should I do?
No, this isn't anomaly. Check out the "Role" column.
You are an "owner" of the list and are thus allowed to change the list settings. You are also a "member", which means you will get emails from this mailing list.
Global based preferences are listed. Address and email based ones are not showing either enabled or disabled.
They are unset, which means they are set to whatever the default value in the backend is.
I know this is terrible in many regards, but we have an issue open for this. Hopefully, this will improve in future releases.
- MANAGE LISTS
For myself I have done the following in my MAILING LIST SETTINGS
Subscribe to this list My email and name (Maybe that is why i am listed twice)
That's right.
Now I see
- Users For now only me- I am listed as member and owner. There will be no other moderators or owners I have no idea what a non member is (if they register aren't they a member?)
I explained non-member in other email you sent.
- Templates This is showing nothing at this point. Before it was. I am not sure what i did to stop it from showing. Perhaps because I made it a private list?
If this is a new list, it will probably not have any templates.
- Settings a) List identity I have it set for NOT SHOWING on the Index page because I will link to it from my news magazine website as a way to comment on articles. Is this ok? Other data will be filled in later. I think I am confusing this with private list. I also will have no other list.
b) AUTO RESPOND LIST OWNER-- I added a short note thanking people. Respond and Continue Processing
c) AUTO RESPOND POSTER--Your message has been been received. If you are a member, it should be posted soon. Respond and Continue Processing
d) AUTO RESPOND REQUESTS--No auto response OTHER THINGS DEFAULT
e) URL WELCOME MESSAGE--NOT SURE. I want people to subscribe themselves but I also have 500 people from another list from DADA I will import. I want them automatically be able to post. Is it possible? If so, I hope to add them manually. DO I compose a text on my website and welcome them by adding the URL, or enter it in my list?
This option is deprecated, and actually now removed.
f) NOTIFY OF MEMBERSHIP CHANGES--Yes
g) ALTER MESSAGES ---I have left most things as they are. However, as this is a discussion list, I want replies ONLY to go to the list. I chose that.
h) DMARC --I have left as is
i) DIGEST--I have left as is
MASS OPERATIONS--I have left as is
BAN--left as is
MESSAGE ACCEPTANCE--I have left as is
HEADER FILTERS--left as is
ARCHIVES--Private Archives (Maybe this is why templates do not show???)
SUBSCRIPTION POLICY--MODERATE-- I intend to send them an email to confirm their reasons for subscribing to avoid spammers.
LAST THING. My Gravity does not work. I edited it online as per instructions but it does not appear.
That is all I can think of.
Thanks in advance.
paul
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-- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)
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