Confirm and Moderate Unsubscribe Requests
If you set the unsubscription policy to confirm then moderate for a list and someone unsubscribes, they receive a confirmation request. That is good. They respond to it. That is also working fine. However the list owner/moderator than gets a request to approve the unsubscribe request and well, unless I am missing something, I don't see an interface to handles such requests via Postorius.
How does one handle an unsubscribe request that requires moderator approval?
-- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com
On 10/21/20 8:53 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
If you set the unsubscription policy to confirm then moderate for a list and someone unsubscribes, they receive a confirmation request. That is good. They respond to it. That is also working fine. However the list owner/moderator than gets a request to approve the unsubscribe request and well, unless I am missing something, I don't see an interface to handles such requests via Postorius.
This is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/332>.
How does one handle an unsubscribe request that requires moderator approval?
I'm not sure at this point, I can look further later, but if the notice
to the admin has a token, it might work to send a confirm <token>
command to the list-request address.
Otherwise, don't moderate unsubscription requests.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 10/21/20 1:14 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 10/21/20 8:53 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
If you set the unsubscription policy to confirm then moderate for a list and someone unsubscribes, they receive a confirmation request. That is good. They respond to it. That is also working fine. However the list owner/moderator than gets a request to approve the unsubscribe request and well, unless I am missing something, I don't see an interface to handles such requests via Postorius.
This is <https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/332>.
How does one handle an unsubscribe request that requires moderator approval?
I'm not sure at this point, I can look further later, but if the notice to the admin has a token, it might work to send a
confirm <token>command to the list-request address.Otherwise, don't moderate unsubscription requests.
Well I can't dictate that to my list owners and there is no confirm token sent with the moderation notice. Why include this option in Postorius when it can't be properly handled?
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Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com
On 10/21/20 12:14 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
Well I can't dictate that to my list owners and there is no confirm token sent with the moderation notice. Why include this option in Postorius when it can't be properly handled?
Postorius is still a work in progress. The unsubscription policies are in core and are exposed in Postorius. Certainly the ability to moderate an unsubscription should be in Postorius, but it isn't yet. We are an all volunteer project and there aren't that many of us, and perhaps I'm overreacting, but the tone of some of your recent posts seems a bit demanding.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 10/21/20 5:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 10/21/20 12:14 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
Well I can't dictate that to my list owners and there is no confirm token sent with the moderation notice. Why include this option in Postorius when it can't be properly handled?
Postorius is still a work in progress. The unsubscription policies are in core and are exposed in Postorius. Certainly the ability to moderate an unsubscription should be in Postorius, but it isn't yet. We are an all volunteer project and there aren't that many of us, and perhaps I'm overreacting, but the tone of some of your recent posts seems a bit demanding.
I apologize. I didn't think I was coming across demanding but I am somewhat exasperated at some of these issues. I have a list owner who is now going to get a moderated request notice everyday that he can't do anything about it.
But my question still remains: why is this option in Postorius when it can't be handled properly? Surely the option can be easily removed, right?
Is the ability to list (via the pending moderation notices tab) and handle (as in the List owner can decide a moderation response) an unsubscribe moderation request there in Mailman core so that I can properly address it via Affinity?
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Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
On 10/21/20 5:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 10/21/20 12:14 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
Well I can't dictate that to my list owners and there is no confirm token sent with the moderation notice. Why include this option in Postorius when it can't be properly handled?
Postorius is still a work in progress. The unsubscription policies are in core and are exposed in Postorius. Certainly the ability to moderate an unsubscription should be in Postorius, but it isn't yet. We are an all volunteer project and there aren't that many of us, and perhaps I'm overreacting, but the tone of some of your recent posts seems a bit demanding.
I apologize. I didn't think I was coming across demanding but I am somewhat exasperated at some of these issues. I have a list owner who is now going to get a moderated request notice everyday that he can't do anything about it.
But my question still remains: why is this option in Postorius when it can't be handled properly? Surely the option can be easily removed, right?
I added the option in my drive to expose every possible Mailinglist settings via Postorius and missed the fact that we weren't actually able to moderate those requests.
Yes, this option can be hidden if it doesn't work until the next stable release. I hid one of the list settings in Postorius exactly because it didn't work, but this one slipped.
Is the ability to list (via the pending moderation notices tab) and handle (as in the List owner can decide a moderation response) an unsubscribe moderation request there in Mailman core so that I can properly address it via Affinity?
Unfortunately no, there is a bug report open for it though and I have some done some analysis on root cause1. The bug turned out to be a more than a trivial one and I haven't been able to get to it yet.
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On 10/21/20 9:39 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote:
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
On 10/21/20 5:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 10/21/20 12:14 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
Well I can't dictate that to my list owners and there is no confirm token sent with the moderation notice. Why include this option in Postorius when it can't be properly handled? Postorius is still a work in progress. The unsubscription policies are in core and are exposed in Postorius. Certainly the ability to moderate an unsubscription should be in Postorius, but it isn't yet. We are an all volunteer project and there aren't that many of us, and perhaps I'm overreacting, but the tone of some of your recent posts seems a bit demanding. I apologize. I didn't think I was coming across demanding but I am somewhat exasperated at some of these issues. I have a list owner who is now going to get a moderated request notice everyday that he can't do anything about it.
But my question still remains: why is this option in Postorius when it can't be handled properly? Surely the option can be easily removed, right? I added the option in my drive to expose every possible Mailinglist settings via Postorius and missed the fact that we weren't actually able to moderate those requests.
Yes, this option can be hidden if it doesn't work until the next stable release. I hid one of the list settings in Postorius exactly because it didn't work, but this one slipped.
Thank you. I will go ahead and remove the option within Affinity.
Is the ability to list (via the pending moderation notices tab) and handle (as in the List owner can decide a moderation response) an unsubscribe moderation request there in Mailman core so that I can properly address it via Affinity? Unfortunately no, there is a bug report open for it though and I have some done some analysis on root cause1. The bug turned out to be a more than a trivial one and I haven't been able to get to it yet.
This is good information to have at least so I appreciate letting me know. I probably need to spend more time looking through the outstanding issues for Mailman core and Postorius before launching a nuclear strike of epic and catastrophic proportions upon Mark.
-- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com
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