Hi Folks, Is there a simple way to set up the defaults for any newly created lists? We've had a few cases recently where in the time between creating a mass-populated list and making it private it's been inundated with spam.
I'd like to change the defaults so newly-created lists are private and have private archives, new members are moderated, etc., to give time for the list to be set up completely before announcing it to the world.
Peter C
On 1/29/26 14:04, Peter Chubb via Mailman-users wrote:
Hi Folks, Is there a simple way to set up the defaults for any newly created lists? We've had a few cases recently where in the time between creating a mass-populated list and making it private it's been inundated with spam.
I'd like to change the defaults so newly-created lists are private and have private archives, new members are moderated, etc., to give time for the list to be set up completely before announcing it to the world.
Actually, I think the 'private-default' list style does almost all you want except for new members moderated. https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/871 asks for that to be changed, however the 'private-default' list style sets the subscription policy to confirm then moderate so spammers can't subscribe and post without their subscriptions being approved by a moderator.
You can implement a new list style to do exactly what you want. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/example-mailman-plugin for information about implementing a plugin to do that. Also see https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/styles/docs... for general information on list styles.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
"Mark" == Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> writes:
Mark> On 1/29/26 14:04, Peter Chubb via Mailman-users wrote:
Hi Folks, Is there a simple way to set up the defaults for any newly created lists? We've had a few cases recently where in the time between creating a mass-populated list and making it private it's been inundated with spam.
Mark> Actually, I think the 'private-default' list style does almost Mark> all you want except for new members Mark> moderated. https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues/871 asks Mark> for that to be changed, however the 'private-default' list style Mark> sets the subscription policy to confirm then moderate so Mark> spammers can't subscribe and post without their subscriptions Mark> being approved by a moderator.
Thanks Mark --- how do I make that the default though? Admins are creating lists without changing the list style because they don't know or understand that they can or should change things. (and searching for 'defaults' in the docs didn't lead me to styles)
Mark> You can implement a new list style to do exactly what you Mark> want. See https://gitlab.com/mailman/example-mailman-plugin for Mark> information about implementing a plugin to do that. Also see Mark> https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/styles/docs... Mark> for general information on list styles.
Thanks for the pointers. I'll try ...
Peter C
On 1/29/26 15:43, Peter Chubb via Mailman-users wrote:
Thanks Mark --- how do I make that the default though?
in the [styles] section in mailman.cfg set
default: private-default
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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