Mass subscription and Delivery mode/status
Hello all, we run a venv installation of "mailman postorius django-mailman3 hyperkitty mailman-web". When I mass subscribe (pre-verified) a new mail address into a list, the Delivery mode appears as Regular in /mailman3/lists/somelist.example.com/members/member/ That is what I expect.
When I click on the new mail address from there, i.e. mailman3/lists/somelist.example.com/members/options/eimer@mail.org?role=member the Delivery status is ----- instead of Enabled and the Delivery mode is ----- instead of Regular. In fact, all yes/no radio buttons are unset. This is unexpected. What does ----- mean in that case? Is it unset and some default (from the list?) is used?
After thinking another round about it: Is the view mailman3/lists/somelist.example.com/members/options/eimer@mail.org?role=member only filled with values, when somebody (member, list owner or admin) actively set values and unfilled otherwise?
Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Andreas Vetter
On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 10:48 AM Andreas Vetter < andreas.vetter@uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:
Hello all, we run a venv installation of "mailman postorius django-mailman3 hyperkitty mailman-web". When I mass subscribe (pre-verified) a new mail address into a list, the Delivery mode appears as Regular in /mailman3/lists/somelist.example.com/members/member/ That is what I expect.
When I click on the new mail address from there, i.e. mailman3/lists/ somelist.example.com/members/options/eimer@mail.org?role=member the Delivery status is ----- instead of Enabled and the Delivery mode is ----- instead of Regular. In fact, all yes/no radio buttons are unset. This is unexpected. What does ----- mean in that case? Is it unset and some default (from the list?) is used?
You are looking at the subscriber-level configs. The ----- means that the list default settings are used.
After thinking another round about it: Is the view mailman3/lists/ somelist.example.com/members/options/eimer@mail.org?role=member only filled with values, when somebody (member, list owner or admin) actively set values and unfilled otherwise?
That's right.
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Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users writes:
This is unexpected. What does ----- mean in that case? Is it unset and some default (from the list?) is used?
You are looking at the subscriber-level configs. The ----- means that the list default settings are used.
It could also be User-level settings or Address-level, depending on the setting.
The "-----" convention causes confusion and there are a couple of related issues, but figuring out how to concisely but conspicuously show that the actual setting is inherited from a higher level of configuration is not easy.
Steve
-- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirius Open Source https://www.siriusopensource.com/ Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan
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