On 11/14/25 15:36, Cathryn McGuire wrote:
Hi Mark,
"It appears in your case that Gateway to news is Yes and Newsgroup moderation is Moderated"
I don't see any Gateway to mail or Gateway to news, but Newsgroup moderation was set to Moderated (as you said). I changed it to Not Moderated.
That's good. As I've said, I don't know what the affinity UI looks like. If you send me (off list) a screen shot of the page where you see Newsgroup moderation, I can advise you further, but basically, anything to do with Newsgroups should be set to Off or No.
In the following case, they are cc'ing to the mailist, and To: is to a member. Sometimes they are not members. Sometimes they To: to the mailist and cc: to the member or non-member.
Subject:Re: [Neighbours] Furnace problems To:Bill McCreery <billmccreery1@gmail.com> Cc:neighbours@mailist.dunbar-vancouver.org Content-Type:multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f9e5900643322d20" X-MailFrom:dunontime@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Hits:header-match-neighbours.mailist.dunbar-vancouver.org-0 X-Mailman-Rule-Misses:dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation
My understanding is you want to hold for moderation any message with a Cc: unless it it To: the list with a Cc: to a member, and I said that with what's available to you in the list's settings, you can't distinguish between Cc: to a member and Cc: to a nonmember, so you have to hold any message with a Cc:
"If the reason was actually what is posted above with 'neighbors' rather than 'cc:', that's a problem with EMWD's Mailman core."
Does that mean that any cc: to neighbours or to a member or non-member should be blocked (held)? Or, does that mean if the cc: is to neighbours, it should be allowed through?
That quote was in response to your post at https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message/... wherein you said
The message is being held because:
Header "neighbours
<neighbours@mailist.dunbar-vancouver.org>" matched a header rule
I thought that was a typo and the real reason was
Header "Cc: <neighbours@mailist.dunbar-vancouver.org>" matched a header rule.
If that was the case, it was expected and was due to your header filter on Cc: headers. My confusion was I couldn't see how the reason could have been
Header "neighbours <neighbours@mailist.dunbar-vancouver.org>" matched a header rule.
And if it was, that was an EMWD issue.
I think the header rule you have will hold any post with a Cc: to anywhere. If you want to not hold posts with a Cc: <neighbours@mailist.dunbar-vancouver.org> regardless of To:, you can do that by adjusting your header rules, but I don't think you want that.
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