Mark Sapiro wrote:
To diagnose this further, can you create a test list, set Default action to take when a member posts to the list to Hold, mass subscribe an address and send a post from that address and see if it's held. It should be, and if it is, I think things are working as they should be and a test post to the original list from one of these mass subscribed members will be held.
I've done some testing as follows:
- Created a test list
- Migrated the existing list in question from its mm21 config.pck to the test list
- Changed the display name to avoid confusion :-)
- Checked moderator settings for the list:
- Default action to take when a member posts to the list: Hold for moderation
- Default action to take when a non-member posts to the list: Discard (no notification)
- Emergency moderation: No
- Accept/Hold/Reject/Discard non-members: all blank
- CSV exported the 247 existing list members
- Pasted all exported member addresses from the CSV into the mass removal web page, *except* for the list-owner. After doing so hoped that they didn't all get an unsubscribe mail. Given that "Send goodbye message" was set to yes, I suspect I did. :-\
- Confirmed List members only had the list owner
- Added a first new test user (me) via mass subscribe, ticked Pre confirm, Pre approved, Pre verified. Received welcome email
- Confirmed List members; list owner "Hold for moderation", test user "None"
- Added a second new test user (me with a second email address) via mass subscribe with same settings as above. Received welcome email
- Modified second test user to "Hold for moderation" in Members list. Noted the Moderation was set to "List default" before changing it to "Hold for moderation"
- Sent an email from test user 1 to the list
- Sent an email from test user 2 to the list
- Sent an email from a third email address that isn't on the list
- Looked at Held messages:
- test user 1 email was held for moderation in Web UI. User 1 received an email indicating as such.
- test user 2 email was held for moderation in Web UI. User 2 received an email indicating as such.
- non-member email was neither held for moderation, nor sent to the list.
If that is true, I can only think that at the time of that post, settings weren't as they are now.
I think for now I will have to assume that's the case, until the next email can be readied against the proper list. If you hear nothing further, assume that this was all based on some random quirk (by humans or machines). I'll update if it happens again.
Cheers, Mark