On 8/6/25 18:17, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 8/6/25 09:03, Jérôme Charaoui wrote:
I'm running a (rather large) mailman3 instance on Debian 13 (trixie) using the distribution packages.
To manage the mailman3 daemon, the package installs this systemd service unit: https://sources.debian.org/src/mailman3/3.3.10-2/debian/mailman3.service/
It has been working fine until recently: after a reboot, we noticed the mailman3 unit consistently failing to start due to a timeout error.
I figured out that the timeout was related to the service unit type (Type=forking) and the fact that the main/parent process was forking subprocesses (and running normally), writing a PID file, but it wasn't exiting, so systemd identifies this as an error and aborts the service.
The master is not supposed to exit. It continues to run and monitor the child runner processes and will under some circumstances restart a runner that dies.
Further, our recommended systemd configuration is at
https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#starting-mailman...
and includes Type=forking and this is the first I've heard of an issue
with that.
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