[MM3-users] Re: Apple Mail encoding again

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      On 21-Apr-22 05:52, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
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Rainer Herbst writes:
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Maybe I have deleted to much when anonymizing the message...
I tested the whole message and it gave me:
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msg.defects
[InvalidMultipartContentTransferEncodingDefect()]
That's the same error.  So I guess this is just an error that Apple
wants Mail to produce.  I'll work on the "pass these defects" patch
eventually, but I don't know that it will even get in given that Mark
hasn't been sympathetic so far.  I've got other stuff scheduled
already, so I'm not sure if I'll have time before summer.
Steve

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Not that I count, but I'm not particularly sympathetic to this either.
An up-to-date Thunderbird user - the message with the
"mail-with-defect.txt" attachment, as forwarded by [MME-users] (selected
headers below for ID) displays as blank.  Interestingly, the Thunderbird
error console has no error message related to this.
So there's really no point in passing it along, unless "pass these
defects" turns into "repair these defects".
(Does AppleMail present as "Samoware HTML5 6.3.6391280", or is this
another instance of the same issue?)
Assuming it's an origin issue, this really seems like an issue that can
only be fixed by the sending MUA (Apple).
But it's more complicated than that.
Note that MailMan is encapsulating a multipart/signed message in a
multipart/mixed in order to append it's footer, and reports that it
removed the signature part of the multipart/signed.  This makes the
signed message format invalid.  So at least, MM3 needs to handle signed
messages better: either include the signature or remove the signature
headers (an unwrapping exercise to convert the message to unsigned)... 
Note that this can be recursive where a signed message contains a
message/rfc822 part that contains a signed message, that....
I'm not sure it makes sense to encrypt messages to a mailing list, but
the format issue is the same.  (Well, it might make sense if MM knew how
to decrypt with its own key, then archived and/or re-encrypted for list
recipients.  But I doubt that's of much interest.)
In either case, corrupting messages is a MM issue.
multipart/signed should imply accepting the signature part (in this
case, application/x-pkcs7-signature).  If signatures aren't allowed by
policy, then multipart/signed should be bounced.  It's also the case
that if a signed message contains an banned part type, simply removing
it will break the signature.  So in that case, the choice would either
be to bounce the message, convert the message to unsigned, or accept the
banned part.  (The latter might be acceptable in some environments, but
has obvious risks.)
Clearly, the current behavior is problematic.
(I don't think it's reasonable to expect MM admins to "know" to
configure their lists to pass signature parts if accepting signed -
after all, this list is run by experts :-)
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