On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 8:21 PM Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 7/31/25 04:29, Stephan Krinetzki wrote:
/opt/mailman/var/queue/out: total 2868 drwxrwx--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 31 13:26 . drwxr-xr-x 14 mailman mailman 165 Jun 27 2024 .. -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 221708 Jul 30 13:16
1753874180.0845337+0cc7849043859a79dc3678a0d8b63c1c66df0c66.pck.tmp
-rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 733425 Jul 31 00:00 1753912841.8847518+da55f8789ae41b75d19a02b595e3fd6d45983ade.pck.tmp
These indicate a problem of some sort. .pck.tmp files should only exist for a fraction of a second. See
https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/blob/master/src/mailman/core/switchboar...
What does `mailman qfile report for these? Are they the missing messages?
-rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 17758 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.0481033+6adf966467266567275f1146f5054c95e4365c13.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 31122 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.1064982+b1f502e2af56b9b11680135c6de5fcc5285d967e.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 12945 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.1562705+a88534cfa9b03012c248ac00cbb54f4fc08c8dcc.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 1407634 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.2598634+96e501d7aa8e72fbb9f9a5c953d48fc2c7db2bc7.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 17570 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.3654013+d693065f2b9a2338f887d3ac9c0669c957131100.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 60624 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.4132354+8998ee9eb9a8a99faf1fcf045d604e669f5d0c9e.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 7361 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.413462+50dcef9bb178f54ecb2d4707ccfe02773f92336c.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 84848 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.4464717+17836b8875aa6643f7e5fb0744e72940ce5603c6.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 18003 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.4929028+17e9c78a2721cbc344124c6e04a129217ea6c794.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 66982 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.5228019+4ef59e61c6a79dd4cdee6d1110fb0582fcfafb6c.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 221723 Jul 31 13:26 1753961185.5756643+6de90ae99b3d528ce5234b78a287e19f7b6686fc.pck
Also, this is a lot of outgoing messages to be queued. Are you sending periodic digests at this time? If you normally see a lot of messages in the out queue, you might consider setting it's
instancesto 2 or 4. E.g.,[runner.out] instances: 4in mailman.cfg
/opt/mailman/var/queue/shunt: total 3304 drwxrwx--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 31 11:44 . drwxr-xr-x 14 mailman mailman 165 Jun 27 2024 .. -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 451 Jul 31 00:00 1753912822.2651796+28eceef7e18eb70393377b88dc7117af8f9362a0.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 490 Jul 31 00:00 1753912838.4197352+ea531cf0262c1faa58b1679b907fee92bc16822c.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 1407870 Jul 31 00:00 1753912841.9177196+ccea15bdefce3a54301281c8eddf86e8230244a6.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 86108 Jul 31 00:00 1753912841.9197443+7dcef4febc71e44c6d9309a24a08b08753e1ff42.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 1407668 Jul 31 00:00 1753912841.9849963+a3f1869b750060c97262ece38737480d91652828.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 38992 Jul 31 00:01 1753912860.5167956+940584c4f361cbd8c29e390b2f60590558effe40.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 440 Jul 31 00:01 1753912860.6972685+635c065bac8dff5f9d562275d707001d773b84c1.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 445 Jul 31 00:01 1753912868.7903054+befa066f254d7a3529a8555a6c942a554715d837.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 33494 Jul 31 00:01 1753912878.7562895+82b724fd93260ab9a2bb49709d3a42a2f32f2c80.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 217073 Jul 31 00:01 1753912878.9337828+de73a65d9c6febfa80275853921f4b53fd1d9e2a.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 85888 Jul 31 00:02 1753912950.303359+8a87bce0be63ac1df8493c6b1ad6ae154fcedba7.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 50244 Jul 31 00:02 1753912950.4970112+d44d493912bb3024547b8a5112f86f035dcb352f.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 12887 Jul 31 00:02 1753912970.038427+31bcbd7fb2ebdf81f6de24b7283b50bcda6ded21.pck.tmp -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 443 Jul 31 11:44 1753955094.900898+67bc76525412da66a7c76363f65f583989716305.pck
/opt/mailman/var/queue/virgin: total 32 drwxrwx--- 2 mailman mailman 81 Jul 31 13:17 . drwxr-xr-x 14 mailman mailman 165 Jun 27 2024 .. -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 32013 Jan 11 2025 1736550035.6163204+472f81ece5e45a2651a4499bef418f611b43c619.pck.tmp
Nothing special there (shunt should be checked, but not in correlation with my mail).
Actually those .pck.tmp files indicate some issue.
I have one list which archives the mail. In the archive there is the mail, but it doesn't get deliverd
Which says the pipeline to_archive handler is adding the message to the archive queue and the archive runner is handling it, so presumably the pipeline to_outgoing handler is adding the message to the out queue, so the issue is in the outging runner.
In one response, he mentioned that "Other mailinglists on the same host are doing fine. Even a 1:1 copy of the list works - only the original list does not work". Does it mean that "the issue is in the outgoing runner" only for a single list?
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