On 2023-01-04 15:07, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 1/4/23 14:02, Jan Eden via Mailman-users wrote:
Although I could specify the IP address in my SPF records directly (as
you suggested), I do hope that my understanding of DNS records laid out
above is not entirely misguided. My current setup does work as expected
for eden.one, after all.
As I said at <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message/A37ELNBFLROFRYXKE3HX5OMLN37XEHQ7/>
I was misreading your DNS and now I am as puzzled as you about the failure.
It gets even more mysterious. I tried sending messages from both
lists.eden.one and janeden.net (my other domain) to a gmail account and
to another mail provider. Both messages passed the SPF checks on both
services (s. the relevant headers quoted below). Now because I send
those messages via my SMTP user (smtpuser@eden.one) and use SRS, the SPF
check operates (and succeeds) on e.g.
srs0=jdm+=5c=lists.eden.one=testlist-bounces+gmailuser=googlemail.com@eden.one
(and not on somethingsomething@lists.eden.one or
somethingsomething@janeden.net). Could this be the reason for the failed
SPF checks in Yahoo's and Google's DMARC reports?
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Authentication-Results: posteo.de; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=lists.eden.one
Authentication-Results: posteo.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=eden.one
Authentication-Results: posteo.de;
dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lists.eden.one header.i=@lists.eden.one header.b=8FtNB1m3;
dkim-atps=neutral
Delivered-To: gmailuser@gmail.com
Received: by 2002:a05:7022:4584:b0:4b:2a9c:6c6f with SMTP id cf4csp83532dlb;
Wed, 4 Jan 2023 23:29:12 -0800 (PST)
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
dkim=pass header.i=@lists.eden.one header.s=s42 header.b=lrjRRPic;
spf=pass (google.com: domain of srs0=jdm+=5c=lists.eden.one=testlist-bounces+gmailuser=googlemail.com@eden.one designates 123.123.123.123 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=JDm+=5C=lists.eden.one=testlist-bounces+gmailuser=googlemail.com@eden.one";
dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=lists.eden.one
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of srs0=jdm+=5c=lists.eden.one=testlist-bounces+gmailuser=googlemail.com@eden.one designates 123.123.123.123 as permitted sender) client-ip=123.123.123.123;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
dkim=pass header.i=@lists.eden.one header.s=s42 header.b=lrjRRPic;
spf=pass (google.com: domain of srs0=jdm+=5c=lists.eden.one=testlist-bounces+gmailuser=googlemail.com@eden.one designates 123.123.123.123 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=JDm+=5C=lists.eden.one=testlist-bounces+gmailuser=googlemail.com@eden.one";
dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=lists.eden.one
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.eden.one; s=s42; t=1672903751; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:
message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:
content-type:content-type:list-id:list-help:list-owner:
list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=q4JtVWzFRbBZ12C26k1xKRRVOBGue+2uV43xiHohi3M=; b=lrjRRPicpiyGUP11wjj76yIg8qHib1aUAS99+RNhSwYE9HzXctedXbdMXeY7WJyUc1gE2Z PFkDPZD6YMGIAY9N35fzgzoMgrgNAWkTLqDF7i5d0kEXEhEuQ+hLbRHKMcsD8XDVff41iY vLnygg85AKj5L4dvq/p5o4TEjmfaXHadRJ6ZI6qY67Yys1D+LqZzbfIQyvgUH+U986d0Ed SO3POUWJLcYNwwQk0UzTc4iIenM7042alew/wXoncDc1lnMQrAYHY/lPwGHFyqqyPebkLZ bE3nM4g8pM9ODXBbn0Vs7602SzCFkHs2l1QScFtV9+pZbPaKgYL5TW6Q8BT0MA==
Received: from client.eden.one (unknown [195.37.242.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 08:29:05 +0100
To: testlist@lists.eden.one
Subject: [Testlist] Test (Listenmail)
From: Jan Eden via Testlist <testlist@lists.eden.one>
Reply-To: Jan Eden <mailuser@eden.one>
==============================
Authentication-Results: posteo.de; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=janeden.net
Authentication-Results: posteo.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=eden.one
Authentication-Results: posteo.de;
dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=janeden.net header.i=@janeden.net header.b=VV5k+gN7;
dkim-atps=neutral
Delivered-To: gmailuser@gmail.com
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
dkim=pass header.i=@janeden.net header.s=s42 header.b=B8NPELsC;
spf=pass (google.com: domain of srs0=xtlx=5c=janeden.net=mailuser@eden.one designates 123.123.123.123 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=Xtlx=5C=janeden.net=mailuser@eden.one";
dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=janeden.net
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of srs0=xtlx=5c=janeden.net=mailuser@eden.one designates 123.123.123.123 as permitted sender) client-ip=123.123.123.123;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
dkim=pass header.i=@janeden.net header.s=s42 header.b=B8NPELsC;
spf=pass (google.com: domain of srs0=xtlx=5c=janeden.net=mailuser@eden.one designates 123.123.123.123 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=Xtlx=5C=janeden.net=mailuser@eden.one";
dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=janeden.net
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=janeden.net; s=s42; t=1672903599; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id:
to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=wE7NXSkgnx9PGiavN4OZhJztvkqPDlemV3OGuEnLwNo=; b=B8NPELsC7r7WI62YOpEFUhESxumSjhP/aQNOlWRmusnTHgbHgjEHeCKNRhEDUeh+fRRVZw JnRVZx9WAU58/3UXx0XJIN6ivLYJnOtJ9vw3r1nVAzU6wk7RCE1Zx6zTJLybwHNijHcCn4 A2cRJZc1IUfJTAok3RHclBB8c10difp5SNPKVGRtNEPAOEFnG5vaNecPvQWc0+4EyHNCYX WSEARKApxpL31gBcojCEHjtdAFgmcknReosUN9I3PUiQQIxqFQ6uU9hA6XWyg6qCsEAll7 E1sGL9HopGIHQA2pHXPanQ9FZxOFou8BcjwN4w65Vygr78hAO5e2Ru6tDFwr4g==
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 08:26:37 +0100
From: Jan Eden <mailuser@janeden.net>
To: gmailuser@googlemail.com
Subject: Test