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Already asked both providers why some mails are 1. going to spam 2. going to a black hole 3. are bouncing. After some writing forth and back, they said pretty much nothing.
One thing I clearly found with United Internet is that they will bounce mails, when they are hold for moderation and are only acknowledged after 5-7 days. Then their mail server says ... blabla not corresponding to our policy. For that the support says, that the mail header is wrong/corrupt, which it isn't, but they don't listen (or have no clue what they are talking about / others configured).
If you find any solution, please advice here and those 2 examples, thanks.
I also registered an account with web.de and tried to find out, what led to the SPAM-folder, unfortunately their header looks like this:
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Asking the support, they couldn't tell me anything. I just asked again from within the account.
Am 19.07.23 um 14:31 schrieb itservice--- via Mailman-users:
How can I configure Mailman3 so that Mails from the list will not be blocked by gmx.net I tried to send with the same user (mailman.cf) at my mail server, which will not be blocked by gmx. unfortunately, I get no bounce back message. They do just not appear in the mail folder of gmx.
At web.de they go to the SPAM folder.
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