On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, at 7:05 PM, paul@arenson.org wrote:
Thank you for the very quick response, Abhilash Raj. Being non technical (and therefore opting for hosted Mailman 3), I can partly understand your kind response.
I can understand that I cannot disable the different ways to sign up.
I am still struggling to understand the difference between the two web choices as shown here.
WAY # 1 TO GET AN ACCOUNT https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/accounts/signup/?next=%2Fpostorius%2Flists...
VS
WAY # 2 YOU CAN GET AN ACCOUNT WITHOUT SIGNING UP at the bottom of https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/postorius/lists/discuss.list.tokyoprogress...
(I was under the impression making only WAY #1 allows one to post, but are you saying that the bottom option also allows one to post, but only by email?)
That's right. Mailman is a mailing list manager and is primarily based around discussions using Emails. You can subscribe to mailing lists and send email to the list address, which then gets distributed to all the members. All the emails sent to the mailing lists are also archived usually in an archiver.
The official archiver, a.k.a the one supported by us, also additionally supports posting to the mailing list via the Web interface. If anyone wants to use the web ui to post, they need to have an account and need to verify that they own the email address they are signing up with.
Then, anything they post is sent as an email, on their behalf, to the mailing list and that's how you can get 2 ways to post.
You don't need any account on the web interface if all you want is to post through email.
If I am confused, I know my users will also be confused. I think I understand I can qualify their subscription in the ways you suggest:
"Confirm where all users would have to confirm their subscription using an email sent to them. Optionally, you can also enable moderation where each subscription needs explicit approval too."So to put it simply:
- I want to make it a discussion list. Not available to people who are not signed up?
It is slightly confusing, but let's separate sign-up into two terms and let me know if that is still confusing, "sign up to web interface", "subscribe to mailing list".
sign up to web interface: This is optional. This allows you, as an administrator to operate the mailing list and it's configuration. A user can sign up to the web interface and manage all the subscriptions they have, and also subscribe to mailing lists.
subscribe to mailing list: This is a user participating in a Mailing List. For this, they don't necessarily need to sign up via web interface as there are other ways to subscribe to a mailing list, like anonymous subscribe (which is your #2 above). Once they are subscribed, they are called "subscribers".
Users will always have to "subscribe" before they can participate on a mailing list.
There is currently no way to mandate "sign up on the web interface" for all "subscribers".
- This is dependent on all having access to the archives so they can see what they are responding to
If the archives are set to be private, only the "subscribers" can view the archives.
- What settings do I make to insure that all who sign up via WAY #1 can see the archives and post.
You have to set the archives to be private and that's all.
You can do that from:
List -> Settings -> Archiving
Options on that page should be self-explanatory
- What settings do I make to insure that all who sign up via way #2 can do the same?
They will receive emails and will be able to reply to them.
If they want to post via the web interface, they will have to create an account and sign up, same as #1.
Last, in my account settings what is the difference between a member and a non member?
"non-members" are people Mailman remembers who interacted with a MailingList in past. For example, I can ask an list owner to let my post through, without actually subscribing(because I don't want to get all the emails, just send a single email) by allowing me to be a "non-member" who is allowed to post.
Thanks and sorry I was not clear the first time.
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-- thanks, Abhilash Raj (maxking)