Thank you Mark. I will need to find time tomorrow to create two totally new email accounts that I can use in tests so I do not inadvertently sign up again with the same address. Also will double check my settings.
Best regards
Paul
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On Sep 17, 2019, at 14:39, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 9/16/19 9:22 PM, Paul Arenson wrote: In my test of the two forms of signup, I am getting these unexpected results. Is it my settings or is something weird within the program itself?
https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/postorius/lists/discuss.list.tokyoprogress...
Choose "You can also subscribe without creating an account. If you wish to do so, please use the form below"
Then I have to approve it. They get "Welcome to the "Discuss" mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: discuss@list.tokyoprogressive.org
You have to approve it or the user has to confirm her email address? Maybe you have to approve it because the lists Subscription Policy is Moderate.
- But I have to approve it.I assume this is because they do not yet have a real account. And they should be listed as a NON MEMBER?
No. They will be a member, they just will not have a Django account that they can log in to.
- But even when they sign up here: https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/accounts/signup/?next=%2Fpostorius%2Flists... they get an email from my provider (NOT MY LIST????) as follows:
"Hello from mailman3.emwd.com! You're receiving this e-mail because user iCloud has given yours as an e-mail address to connect their account. To confirm this is correct, go to https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/accounts/confirm-email/MTE3:1iA44k:E7w7xhy... Thank you from mailman3.emwd.com! mailman3.emwd.com"
Because when you create a Django account, you have to confirm your email address.
- And this is where it gets weird. If they send from their email program and get the welcome (Welcome to the "Discuss" mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: discuss@list.tokyoprogressive.org You can unsubscribe or make adjustments to your options via email by sending a message to....... I then get a notice:
"Your mail to 'discuss@list.tokyoprogressive.org' with the subject test notice Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The message is being held because: The message is not from a list member"
What is Message Acceptance -> Default action to take when a member posts to the list ?
You get the notice or the user gets the notice?
While if they send FROM THE interface it goes through.
What I am confused about.
Signing up for an account should make them a member, right? Subscribing should make them a non member, no?
Signing up for an account is just signing up for a Django account. You can sign up for an account and log in and then subscribe to the list.
Subscribing makes one a member whether or not you subscribe from a logged in account or subscribe without creating an account.
But here it seems that both make them a non member.
If an address which is not a member posts to the list, that address becomes a non-member. This is the only way other than being explicitly added by an admin that an address becomes a non-member.
And worse, someone with an account sending from the Interface has their message get through while the same person sending from an email program has me get a notice that a non member is trying to post.
If by sending from the interface, you mean posting via hyperkitty, the user must have an account and be logged in to do that.
Your "same person" may have multiple entities within Mailman, possibly subtly different email addresses, one of which is a member and one of which isn't.
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