On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:52:47 -0700 Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
Thanks Eggert and Sapiro.
As Eggert suggests, see https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html and follow that.
I already started out on the above route. Its an adaptation because I am running Fedora. I had no problem with system-wide installations via dnf package management. However, some parts of the documentation does not add up.
You don't need to download the source from GitLab. Following that doc will get the latest releases from PyPI via pip. Those are still somewhat out of date - we really should make new releases - so if you want the latest from GitLab, there are a couple of ways to do it. Perhaps the easiest is to just run the various
pip installcommands as documented and then upgrade Mailman core in your venv with ``` pip install --upgrade git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman@masterand update the various mailman web packages withpip install --upgrade git+https://gitlab.com/mailman/xxx@master
where xxx is mailman-web, mailman-hyperkitty, django-mailman3, postorius, hyperkitty. I.e., run it 5 times, once for each value of xxx.
I will come to this eventually (assuming that does not break things later). I aim to get it all working with regular pip packages first. I have installed mailman core already.
Fedora expects mailman files to reside at /usr/lib/mailman. It appears to ship with a mailman unix user. I adapted to those system defaults.
Now I observe that "su - mailman" gives me the proper prompt but .bashrc doesn't kick in. I still have to manually change to the virtual environment despite setting the automatic change in .bashrc. However, "su mailman" runs .bashrc but the prompt says "bash X.XX $". Is this normal?
Subsequent parts of the doc show the path "/opt/mailman/mm/var/*" which should correspond to "/usr/lib/mailman/mm/var/*" on my instance. However, I don't see any instructions on how to get the "/mm" folder and the associated sub-folders. I just have "/usr/lib/mailman"
I am lost
"pip list" within the venv environment confirms that I have "mailman 3.3.5". What am I missing?
Regards Onyeibo