On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 4:18 PM <justfixit@marilynstrother.com> wrote:
Very interestng! Upon restarting the system (down momentarily for taking a snapshot) and starting Mailman again, all of these missing [List] messages emerged from their timewarp and were delivered to the members / subscribers. Just before shutting down the system I discovered that the apache2 webserver had been off the air due to a module not being enabled yet. As of yet, I was unaware of any requirement for a web server to be online (beyond possibly gunicorn) in order for Mailman to run its lists. Does that speculation have a factual basis? Or do I risk starting a vicious rumor amongst the impatient readers who are not still here once we deduce this pair of observations were merely correlated in time, with no cause-and-effect relationship? Before this situation healed itself, the thought had crossed my mind to peek and see if anything was stuck in the queues:
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/q... While that could have provided peace of mind that email messages were merely delayed instead of vanished, even in hindsight I do not see how that would have led to repairing the situation.
Mailman3 is in two parts which are completely INDEPENDENT:
- Mailman Core - Details at -> https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#installing-mailm...
- Maiman Web - Details at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#installing-web-u...
Only Mailman Web requires a web server. To run a mailing list, you need Mailman Core+Database+MTA. No Webserver is required.
In the absence of a hypothetical command:
mailman status --verbose about which diagnostic tools or clues should I learn?
You should learn how to configure the logging for Mailman in mailman.cfg and how to read and interpret the information written to the logfiles :-)
PS: I know MM3 is a big animal and isn't easy to understand. I have been through that - and still there. With time you'll just understand the bits so don't despair.
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