On 11/9/24 06:52, Odhiambo Washington via Mailman-users wrote:
I looked at Django Admin and Postorius and I see all my MLs in both.
What you see in Django admin is in the HYPERKITTY section and corresponds to hyperkitty_* tables in the mailmanweb database.
What I am sure about is that I did NOT create my MLs using Django admin UI. I either created them using the CLI or Postorius. Having said that, I did run two tests:
- Create a ML in Postorius and check whether it appears in Django admin - The list was visible in Django Admin
Because the list you created had the hyperkitty archiver enabled.
- Create a ML in Django admin and check whether it appears in Postorius - The list was NOT visible in Postrorius
Because it's only in HyperKitty.
- Create a ML in CLI and check if it appears in both Django admin and Postorius - List is visible in Postorius, but not in Django admin
Becayse this list did not have the hyperkitty archiver enabled.
MariaDB [mailmansuite]> select list_name, list_id from mailinglist where list_name like 'ulf%'; +-----------+-------------------------------+ | list_name | list_id | +-----------+-------------------------------+ | ulftest2 | ulftest2.lists.kictanet.or.ke | | ulftest3 | ulftest3.lists.kictanet.or.ke | +-----------+-------------------------------+
These are only Mailman lists.
The list that I created using Django admin is NOT listed here!
Because it's only in HyperKitty.
MariaDB [mailmansuite]> select list_id, name from hyperkitty_mailinglist where list_id like 'ulf%'; +-------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | list_id | name | +-------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | ulftest1@lists.kictanet.or.ke | ulftest1@lists.kictanet.or.ke | | ulftest2.lists.kictanet.or.ke | ulftest2@lists.kictanet.or.ke | +-------------------------------+-------------------------------+The list I created using Django admin and the one I created using Postorius are both listed, but the one I created from CLI is not listed.
Because for some reason, the CLI created list does not create the
HyperKitty archive until there is a post or until the
new_lists_from_mailman job runs even though hyperkitty is enabled.
So there must be some logic behind this. However, I don't know what it is.
The bottom line is you can have lists in HyperKitty that are not in Mailman and vice versa. The only thing you can't do is create a list in HyperKitty via the HyperKitty web UI, but you can use hyperkitty_import to import a mbox for a list which is not in Mailman and will be only in HyperKitty.
Also, while you can create a list in Mailman that isn't in HyperKitty,
if the list has hyperkitty enabled it will be created in HyperKitty when
the new_lists_from_mailman job runs.
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