On 9/17/19 6:39 PM, paul@arenson.org wrote:
A) Thoughts before summarizing tests.
- I had originally thought of making archives only for subscribers to give them the benefit of posting from the archives directly and being able to find stuff more like a forum (email is always hard to follow).
Anyone logged in to an account can post from Hyperkitty. Their post is treated the same as if they posted by email.
- But in retrospect it seems people can get an idea what the list is about from free access. So that is now what I have.
OK
- On the other hand, it is a bit confusing that a non member can post from the archives without realizing that they need to register, with my settings I can moderate and decide if I want to add him or her to the list based on whether that is spam or not. So ok.
A non-member is a non-member. A post from a non-member is handled according to "Default action to take when a non-member posts to the list" unless that non-member has a Moderation action other than List Default.
B) THE TESTS I was testing too many variables so, to simplify things, I made my settings as follows
Subscription—> Confirm
Message Acceptance—> Default processing (so only members may post)
Testing Procesure I added people three ways—> To do that I created 3 unique addresses to see if they can send and receive by email.
3a) subscribe without creating an account—from here (bottom) https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/postorius/lists/discuss.list.tokyoprogress...
3b) Subscription / Unsubscription from same page, navigate to Login and again navigate to signup Comment 1: Confusing because even after creating an account, they are not subscribed to the list. Maybe it makes sense if a person has many lists, but I only have this one. It does not say clearly that one has to subscribe after creating an account.
I understand it's not totally explicit, but it says "To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list, please log in first. If you have not previously logged in, you may need to set up an account with the appropriate email address." To me the implication is once you have created an account, you have to come back, log in and subscribe.
What do you want it to say?
Comment 2: The other thing is that it does not show my domain but that of mailman3.emwd.com <http://mailman3.emwd.com/>.
Talk to Brian (emwd)
3c) Mass Subscribe by me. Which is what I intend for my 600 users from another list company. Comment This worked fine.
C) Summary
- I have been thinking of having an account as a good way to get users used to using the archives as a way to confirm current and past topics (as opposed to keeping track by email. But it seems I need to tell them to BOTH subscribe AND create an account. Am I thinking about it the wrong way?
That's correct. They need an account and they need to subscribe that account to the list.
- When a person wants to unsubscribe, they go to discuss-request@list.tokyoprogressive.org <mailto:discuss-request@list.tokyoprogressive.org> with subject bline help.
a) Isn’t there a better way to unsubscribe by email?
email to discuss-leave@list.tokyoprogressive.org (or discuss-unsubscribe@list.tokyoprogressive.org)
Or you can login, go to https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/postorius/lists/discuss.list.tokyoprogress... and click the big red unsubscribe button.
b) And how about a way to remove their account itself?
Log in and click the dropdown at the upper right, select Account and click the Delete Account tab or go directly to https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/user-profile/ and click the Delete Account tab or go directly to https://list.tokyoprogressive.org/user-profile/delete
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