It seems like something about my SPF or DKIM records are upsetting to gmail, hence the bounces I'm guessing. That aside, this is what mail.log says:
May 5 08:02:50 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: AF07B1004A4: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:02:50 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[26614]: AF07B1004A4: message-id=<046f01d97f5c$27c4ada0$774e08e0$@degrowthcalifornia.org> May 5 08:02:50 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[26614]: AF07B1004A4: warning: header Subject: [Degrowcali] test - please ignore from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+eappiah=dons.usfca.edu@lists.ccalternatives.org> to=<eappiah@dons.usfca.edu> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:02:50 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: AF07B1004A4: from=<degrowcali-bounces+eappiah=dons.usfca.edu@lists.ccalternatives.org>, size=6812, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:04:06 zarathustra postfix/smtp[25955]: AF07B1004A4: to=<eappiah@dons.usfca.edu>, relay=mxb-00277301.gslb.pphosted.com[148.163.158.109]:25, delay=76, delays=0.01/0/61/15, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 3qcf1p3wf4-1 Message accepted for delivery) May 5 08:04:06 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: AF07B1004A4: removed May 5 08:05:01 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: C263A1004A4: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:05:01 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[27274]: C263A1004A4: message-id=<046f01d97f5c$27c4ada0$774e08e0$@degrowthcalifornia.org> May 5 08:05:01 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[27274]: C263A1004A4: warning: header Subject: [Degrowcali] test - please ignore from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+adga=ucdavis.edu@lists.ccalternatives.org> to=<adga@ucdavis.edu> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:05:01 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: C263A1004A4: from=<degrowcali-bounces+adga=ucdavis.edu@lists.ccalternatives.org>, size=6806, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:05:04 zarathustra postfix/smtp[25955]: C263A1004A4: to=<adga@ucdavis.edu>, relay=ucdavis-edu.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.66.10]:25, delay=2.5, delays=0.01/0/0.15/2.3, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 <046f01d97f5c$27c4ada0$774e08e0$@degrowthcalifornia.org> [InternalId=117626269340390, Hostname=BN8PR08MB6290.namprd08.prod.outlook.com] 16054 bytes in 0.131, 119.439 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery) May 5 08:05:04 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: C263A1004A4: removed May 5 08:07:12 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: D3CCE1004A4: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:07:12 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[27925]: D3CCE1004A4: message-id=<046f01d97f5c$27c4ada0$774e08e0$@degrowthcalifornia.org> May 5 08:07:12 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[27925]: D3CCE1004A4: warning: header Subject: [Degrowcali] test - please ignore from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+chris.hebdon=yale.edu@lists.ccalternatives.org> to=<chris.hebdon@yale.edu> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:07:12 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: D3CCE1004A4: from=<degrowcali-bounces+chris.hebdon=yale.edu@lists.ccalternatives.org>, size=6811, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:07:13 zarathustra postfix/smtp[27926]: D3CCE1004A4: to=<chris.hebdon@yale.edu>, relay=yale-edu.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.59.138]:25, delay=0.77, delays=0.01/0.02/0.07/0.67, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 <046f01d97f5c$27c4ada0$774e08e0$@degrowthcalifornia.org> [InternalId=16887811415117, Hostname=PH0PR08MB6757.namprd08.prod.outlook.com] 16093 bytes in 0.121, 129.491 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery) May 5 08:07:13 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: D3CCE1004A4: removed May 5 08:09:23 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[28574]: E394C1005BA: message-id=<046f01d97f5c$27c4ada0$774e08e0$@degrowthcalifornia.org> May 5 08:09:23 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[28574]: E394C1005BA: warning: header Subject: [Degrowcali] test - please ignore from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+vortexanthony=hotmail.com@lists.ccalternatives.org> to=<vortexanthony@hotmail.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:09:23 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: E394C1005BA: from=<degrowcali-bounces+vortexanthony=hotmail.com@lists.ccalternatives.org> , size=6815, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/smtp[28575]: E394C1005BA: to=<vortexanthony@hotmail.com>, relay=hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com[104.47.17.161]:25, delay=0.58, delays=0.01/0.02/0.41/0.14, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com[104.47.17.161] said: 550 5.7.1 Unfortunately, messages from [192.46.218.224] weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list (S3140). You can also refer your provider to http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors. [VI1EUR05FT042.eop-eur05.prod.protection.outlook.com 2023-05-05T15:09:24.433Z 08DB4D70FA71385D] (in reply to MAIL FROM command)) May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/smtp[28575]: E394C1005BA: lost connection with hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com[104.47.17.161] while sending RCPT TO May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[28574]: 7C9B31005EB: message-id=<20230505150924.7C9B31005EB@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: 7C9B31005EB: from=<>, size=9884, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/bounce[28579]: E394C1005BA: sender non-delivery notification: 7C9B31005EB May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/bounce[28579]: E394C1005BA: sender non-delivery notification: 7C9B31005EB May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/bounce[28579]: E394C1005BA: sender non-delivery notification: 7C9B31005EB May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: E394C1005BA: removed May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/lmtp[28581]: 7C9B31005EB: to=<degrowcali-bounces+vortexanthony=hotmail.com@lists.ccalternatives.org>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.04, delays=0/0.01/0/0.02, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) May 5 08:09:24 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: 7C9B31005EB: removed May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: 016931005BA: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29218]: 016931005BA: message-id=<046f01d97f5c$27c4ada0$774e08e0$@degrowthcalifornia.org> May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29218]: 016931005BA: warning: header Subject: [Degrowcali] test - please ignore from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+alaitz.aritza=gmail.com@lists.ccalternatives.org> to=<alaitz.aritza@gmail.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: 016931005BA: from=<degrowcali-bounces+alaitz.aritza=gmail.com@lists.ccalternatives.org>, size=6813, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/smtp[29219]: 016931005BA: to=<alaitz.aritza@gmail.com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.251.116.26]:25, delay=0.43, delays=0.01/0.02/0.03/0.37, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.251.116.26] said: 550-5.7.1 [192.46.218.224 12] Our system has detected that this message is 550-5.7.1 likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent to Gmail, 550-5.7.1 this message has been blocked. Please visit 550-5.7.1 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError 550 5.7.1 for more information. m12-20020a0568080f0c00b00389455db611si4492291oiw.127 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)) May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29218]: 6ACFD1005EB: message-id=<20230505151135.6ACFD1005EB@zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: 6ACFD1005EB: from=<>, size=9885, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/bounce[29222]: 016931005BA: sender non-delivery notification: 6ACFD1005EB May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: 016931005BA: removed May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/lmtp[29224]: 6ACFD1005EB: to=<degrowcali-bounces+alaitz.aritza=gmail.com@lists.ccalternatives.org>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.03, delays=0/0.01/0/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) May 5 08:11:35 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: 6ACFD1005EB: removed May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: 1522D1004A4: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29884]: 1522D1004A4: message-id=<046f01d97f5c$27c4ada0$774e08e0$@degrowthcalifornia.org> May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29884]: 1522D1004A4: warning: header Subject: [Degrowcali] test - please ignore from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+kamccammon=ucdavis.edu@lists.ccalternatives.org> to=<kamccammon@ucdavis.edu> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: 1522D1004A4: from=<degrowcali-bounces+kamccammon=ucdavis.edu@lists.ccalternatives.org>, size=6812, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] ehlo=1 mail=25 rcpt=25 data=25 quit=1 commands=77 May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: 1D3FB1005DA: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29884]: 1D3FB1005DA: warning: header Subject: Degrowcali mailing list probe message from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+6397d6fde210be0b39dbf22a9868e61d6e2d0f23@lists.ccal ternatives.org> to=<juliankrauspolk@gmail.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29884]: 1D3FB1005DA: message-id=<168329874052.765.12737190159456781981@zarathustra.ccalternatives .org> May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29884]: 1D3FB1005DA: warning: header Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+6397d6fde210be0b39dbf22a9868e61d6e2d0f23@lists.ccal ternatives.org> to=<juliankrauspolk@gmail.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29884]: 1D3FB1005DA: warning: header Subject: [Degrowcali] test - please ignore from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+6397d6fde210be0b39dbf22a9868e61d6e2d0f23@lists.ccal ternatives.org> to=<juliankrauspolk@gmail.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/qmgr[2262]: 1D3FB1005DA: from=<degrowcali-bounces+6397d6fde210be0b39dbf22a9868e61d6e2d0f23@lists.ccal ternatives.org>, size=11949, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] ehlo=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 quit=1 commands=5 May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/smtpd[14110]: 2707E1005EB: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29884]: 2707E1005EB: warning: header Subject: Degrowcali mailing list probe message from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<degrowcali-bounces+62749dfe16f9d39e2cd0c3e94754723efbe8169d@lists.ccal ternatives.org> to=<baronchadg@gmail.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<zarathustra.ccalternatives.org> May 5 08:13:46 zarathustra postfix/cleanup[29884]: 2707E1005EB: message-id=<168329886073.765.17844938860507947692@zarathustra.ccalternatives .org>
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2023 5:43 PM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org Subject: [MM3-users] Re: templates
On 5/5/23 17:04, Christian via Mailman-users wrote:
From bounce.log
May 05 07:59:00 2023 (765) Member juliankrauspolk@gmail.com <mailto:juliankrauspolk@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org, bounce score = 5. May 05 07:59:00 2023 (765) Member juliankrauspolk@gmail.com <mailto:juliankrauspolk@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org, bounce score 5 >= threshold 5, sending probe. May 05 08:01:00 2023 (765) Member baronchadg@gmail.com <mailto:baronchadg@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org, bounce score = 5. May 05 08:01:00 2023 (765) Member baronchadg@gmail.com <mailto:baronchadg@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org, bounce score 5 >= threshold 5, sending probe. May 05 08:11:01 2023 (765) Member vortexanthony@hotmail.com <mailto:vortexanthony@hotmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org, bounce score = 1. May 05 08:13:01 2023 (765) Member alaitz.aritza@gmail.com <mailto:alaitz.aritza@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org, bounce score = 5. May 05 08:13:01 2023 (765) Member alaitz.aritza@gmail.com <mailto:alaitz.aritza@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org, bounce score 5 >= threshold 5, sending probe. May 05 08:15:01 2023 (765) Probe bounce received for member juliankrauspolk@gmail.com <mailto:juliankrauspolk@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org. May 05 08:15:01 2023 (765) Disabling delivery for juliankrauspolk@gmail.com <mailto:juliankrauspolk@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org by bounce May 05 08:15:02 2023 (765) Probe bounce received for member alaitz.aritza@gmail.com <mailto:alaitz.aritza@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org. May 05 08:15:02 2023 (765) Disabling delivery for alaitz.aritza@gmail.com <mailto:alaitz.aritza@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org by bounce May 05 08:15:02 2023 (765) Probe bounce received for member baronchadg@gmail.com <mailto:baronchadg@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org. May 05 08:15:02 2023 (765) Disabling delivery for baronchadg@gmail.com <mailto:baronchadg@gmail.com>
on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org by bounce May 05 08:17:02 2023 (765) Residual bounce received for member juliankrauspolk@gmail.com <mailto:juliankrauspolk@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org. May 05 08:17:02 2023 (765) Residual bounce received for member alaitz.aritza@gmail.com <mailto:alaitz.aritza@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org. May 05 08:17:02 2023 (765) Residual bounce received for member baronchadg@gmail.com <mailto:baronchadg@gmail.com> on list degrowcali.lists.ccalternatives.org.
So some of your user's, but not 24, are bouncing. If your list's bounce processing settings have Notify owner on disable = Yes, the owner should receive a notice including the DSN. If Notify owner on bounce increment = Yes, the owner will also get notices when a user's score is incremented as for vortexanthony@hotmail.com <mailto:vortexanthony@hotmail.com> above.
This still doesn't answer the other users. Have you looked at the MTA logs?
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