Mark,
There were no apparent permissions problems on templates. I was getting the ‘Cannot connect to SMTP server’ message in mailman.log.
I did end up applying the patch to decorate.py and messages went through. I’ve since removed the patch, as I’m still looking for an answer and might as well let it queue up again.
The only thing that is making me ponder at the moment is that the list owners setup a template for list:member:regular:footer in postorius. It appears that each list has a copy of that file. The modifications I see in postorius are not in their …/templates/list/<listname>/en/list:member:regular:footer.txt file. Are their modifications stored somewhere else and causing the problem?
Thx
Tom Lieuallen
From: Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> Date: Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 2:22 PM To: mailman-users@mailman3.org <mailman-users@mailman3.org> Subject: [MM3-users] Re: Pck files stuck in out queue [This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]
On 2/6/25 12:42, Lieuallen, Thomas Otis via Mailman-users wrote:
Running Mailman 3.3.10
I have 11x pck files stuck in my out queue. There tends to always be a .bak file as well. If I run ‘ls -l’, the files are continually updated and rotated through, just as fast as I can look.
Are old ones being delivered and new ones added or the same ones just being renamed? I suspect the latter and I suspect the issue in that case is probably due to the OUT runner trying to access a template file like list:member:{regular|generic}:{header|footer}.txt and not having permission. See the last two posts in the thread at https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.mailman3.org%2Farchives%2Flist%2Fmailman-users%40mailman3.org%2Fthread%2FZFJ6WAXV536VXKOPISGLHCPIP6N4T3AZ%2F&data=05%7C02%7CTom.Lieuallen%40oregonstate.edu%7Cb47b69501df04b34bc4708dd46fcad57%7Cce6d05e13c5e4d6287a84c4a2713c113%7C0%7C0%7C638744773448168058%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=R3c%2BY8BiBGHZ02B1xKI7B2sA8US4WidiLMngYhhx3Qg%3D&reserved=0<https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/ZFJ6WAXV536VXKOPISGLHCPIP6N4T3AZ/>
I believe they’re all for one list. When I use ‘strings’ on one to get a hint of what’s inside, I see the list members at the bottom (recipients). One of them consistently has ‘!’ before their email address. Not sure if that’s a clue. Just no other reason to suspect that, though.
The files are python pickles and strings shows lots of stuff. The !
may be something in the pickle that's not part of the email address. The
way to examine these files is with the mailman qfile command.
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