On 8 Jan 2021, at 04:18, Stephen J. Turnbull <turnbull.stephen.fw@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:
Discourse is a different kettle of fish. They concentrate on the much more straightforward (from a network and interapp communication configuration standpoint) web service because that's what their users expect. Mail is a lot more baroque from that standpoint.
We shouldn't hope to successfully "encourage" hosts to do things our way.
Maybe Mail-in-a-Box is a useful comparator in terms of complexity (though it appears to be less configurable than Discourse, and the software itself is not comparable).
Maybe my experience hasn’t been typical. I’ve mainly used a shared server which didn’t have Mailman installed, but of course had email set up. It was relatively easy to install Mailman 2 but impossible to install Mailman 3. I could probably install Mailman 3 on Digital Ocean or similar, but get the feeling that the mail server is the hardest part. If I ever can set aside enough time to get it working I should write the idiot’s guide that I needed.
It would be great if there were a “Mailman-in-a-Box” including everything necessary to get Mailman working from scratch on a VPS (in addition to the primary, flexible way that allows experts to use Mailman 3 according to their personal preference).
I will look into Abhilash’s Docker container setup. I think the first time I saw that I didn’t know he was “maxking” and assumed it was a third-party thing that would likely be abandoned.
Best wishes
Jonathan