On 27/02/2021 04:02, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Lars Schimmer writes:
Hm, it completely ignores the standard way for Debian: apt-get install mailman3-full also exim4 as standard mailer. And apache2.
Right. The idea is that Debian is a *component* of *Brian's* system, not that Brian is installing a Debian system. One problem is that a lot of people like to run Debian Stable, which lags our releases by many months, sometimes a couple of years. A lot of people run a Debian Stable system plus a couple of mission-critical apps from source or from upstream repositories.
Maybe the debian packages are old because people do not care about and use always upstream because debian packages are old? I do know lots of software projects with recent debian packages for stable, testing and unstable. Esp. in the wide use of debian based systems all over the internet. One reason to run those system is the easyness in install and the stable function of its component. Not to need to install all software from upstream because no one cares about a recent package.
It's not necessary to "keep up" to be very helpful to our users, of course. But I think Brian's document is likely to be the "gold standard" for a while. I understand why Abhilash wants it in the official docs. :-)
If it should be a gold standard, it should mention the default setup of a standard debian system (which is exim4, btw) and not assuming a special setup debian system.
Steve
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