On 2/13/20 2:02 PM, Christoph Groth wrote:
The only problem is that our list runs on Mailman 2. We would like to move to Mailman 3, but this does not seem to be that simple. Perhaps someone here would be so kind to give us advice?
I think it's pretty simple, but I've been a Mailman developer for 15 years ;)
The number of (shared) hosters who offer Mailman 3 seems to be very limited [3]. Would it be a good idea to book a virtual private server (VPS) somewhere, that runs, say, Debian, and simply install Mailman 3 through the distribution’s package system? I’m already running a small personal box with nginx on it, and this is very little work, but running Mailman would require sending out up to a few thousand email messages per day (our list has a few hundred subscribers). Is this something that one is commonly allowed to do on a VPS system? Most VPS offers that I see are silent about mail.
This list is on a VPS hosted by RackSpace. mail.python.org which hosts hundreds of lists is a VPS hosted by DigitalOcean, and my bicycling club's web site, email and mailing lists are on a VPS also hosted by DigitalOcean. These servers all run some version of Ubuntu, but because we are developers, they do not use the Debian/Ubuntu packages. They are all installed from the heads of the GitLab branches and kept pretty much up to date with those.
All three servers use Postfix as an MTA. We have no issues with mail volume per se. What you will see with a new VPS is your IP being blocked by various ISPs. It takes a bit of communication and patience to work through these blocks, but once you develop a good reputation, they tend to go away.
If we setup such a system, can we assume that it will silently operate without causing much administration work most of the time (like my nginx server)? Or is maintaining a Mailman 3 server a significant burden ([2]
[2], or [3]?
seems to imply that)? If yes, are you aware of organizations that propose Mailman 3 hosting for open source projects? Python.org seems to host some lists for third party projects, but otherwise I haven’t seen much.
I don't think a Mailman 3 installation needs an undue amount of baby sitting. I do run daily reports that list the contents of mailman's queues (normally empty, but messages in the shunt queue need investigation) and grep a couple of logs for errors.
mail.python.org hosts lists for Python related open source projects. Kwant seems to be eligible. Ask postmaster@python.org specifying the desired list name and name and email address of the initial list owner(s). However, we don't normally import lists or archives from elsewhere.
[1] https://kwant-project.org/ [2] https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/kwant-discuss [3] https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/Q...
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