From celi@dieese.org.br Wed Feb 7 01:40:06 2024
From: celi@dieese.org.br
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject: [MM3-users] Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 22:41:53 +0000
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Hi. We did a fresh install of the Debian Mailman 3 full package. I'd like all=
components to be translated into pt_BR. I downloaded the latest updated tran=
slations from weblate, which says that 100% of the project (all components) a=
re translated. I checked and recompiled mailman.po with msgfmt without errors=
. I followed all instructions I saw, included the ones from the topic How to =
change the language in mailman3 in this list. Everything almost OK, except fr=
om the fact that none of mailman's core email messages are being translated,=
even though mailman.po shows the right messages. Also, strange things happen=
to these .po files. The web interface is almost perfect, but some messages =
(just some) are not correct - although the corresponding django.po appears to=
be OK. It=C2=B4s the case below: the pair msgid/msgstr seems to be OK, but t=
his particular sentence is not being translated.
#: templates/postorius/lists/summary.html:88
#, python-format
msgid ""
"\n"
" To subscribe you can send an email with 'subscribe' in the "
"subject to\n"
" "
"%(address)s\n"
" or use the form below:\n"
" "
msgstr ""
"\n"
" Para se inscrever voc=C3=AA pode enviar um e-mail com o assu=
nto "
"'subscribe' para\n"
" "
"%(address)s\n"
" ou use o formul=C3=A1rio abaixo:\n"
What am I doing wrong? Or what can I do to make things suitable?
Additional info:
GNU Mailman 3.3.3 (Tom Sawyer)
Python 3.9.2 (default, Feb 28 2021, 17:03:44)=20
[GCC 10.2.1 20210110]
Postorius v. 1.3.4
HyperKitty v. 1.3.4
Thanx for any help
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From turnbull.stephen.fw@u.tsukuba.ac.jp Wed Feb 7 08:42:22 2024
From: "Stephen J. Turnbull"
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject: [MM3-users] Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 17:42:03 +0900
Message-ID: <26051.16987.526364.325911@StephennoMacBook-Pro.local>
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celi--- via Mailman-users writes:
> Everything almost OK, except from the fact that none of mailman's
> core email messages are being translated, even though mailman.po
> shows the right messages.
Did you restart mailman? Have you changed the default language in
mailman.cfg?
I don't know how Debian may have altered the configuration mechanism,
but they usually do. It's possible they've changed file locations or
added "conf.d" capabilities or something like that to make their
automated management tools work.
> Also, strange things happen to these .po files. The web interface
> is almost perfect, but some messages (just some) are not correct -
> although the corresponding django.po appears to be OK. It´s the
> case below: the pair msgid/msgstr seems to be OK, but this
> particular sentence is not being translated.
Since this is Django, have you run "mailmanweb compilemessages"?
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From mark@msapiro.net Wed Feb 7 17:35:37 2024
From: Mark Sapiro
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject:
[MM3-users] Re: Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 09:35:28 -0800
Message-ID: <2A539BDE-A2BD-4B70-BA05-2390665EDFF2@msapiro.net>
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On February 6, 2024 2:41:53 PM PST, celi--- via Mailman-users wrote:
> Everything almost OK, except from the fact that none of mailman's core ema=
il messages are being translated, even though mailman.po shows the right mes=
sages.=20
You probably need to compile the .mo file=20
--=20
Mark Sapiro
Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.
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From celi@dieese.org.br Wed Feb 7 17:44:27 2024
From: Celi
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject:
[MM3-users] Re: Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:44:20 -0300
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From: Celi
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject:
[MM3-users] Re: Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:51:07 -0300
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From turnbull.stephen.fw@u.tsukuba.ac.jp Wed Feb 7 18:00:13 2024
From: "Stephen J. Turnbull"
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject:
[MM3-users] Re: Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2024 03:00:04 +0900
Message-ID: <26051.50468.29444.794001@StephennoMacBook-Pro.local>
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About mailman-web vs django-admin: mailman-web is basically a
front-end to django-admin. So if you used django-admin, trying again
with mailman-web probably won't help.
It did occur to me that the 'mailman' command is quite sensitive to
the current directory where it is invoked. for the mailman command it
is best to use "mailman -c /path/to/mailman.cfg", and for mailman-web
"mailman-web --settings=/path/to/settings.py" because the location of
important files and directories are set in those configuration files.
Steve
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From mark@msapiro.net Wed Feb 7 19:47:09 2024
From: Mark Sapiro
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject:
[MM3-users] Re: Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:46:54 -0800
Message-ID: <98447e24-6505-4ba7-9bff-d2b415fd225a@msapiro.net>
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On 2/6/24 2:41 PM, celi--- via Mailman-users wrote:
> It=C2=B4s the case below: the pair msgid/msgstr seems to be OK, but this pa=
rticular sentence is not being translated.
>=20
> #: templates/postorius/lists/summary.html:88
> #, python-format
> msgid ""
> "\n"
> " To subscribe you can send an email with 'subscribe' in the"
> "subject to\n"
> " "
> "%(address)s\n"
> " or use the form below:\n"
> ""
> msgstr ""
> "\n"
> " Para se inscrever voc=C3=AA pode enviar um e-mail com o as=
sunto"
> "'subscribe' para\n"
> " "
> "%(address)s\n"
> " ou use o formul=C3=A1rio abaixo:\n"
>=20
> What am I doing wrong? Or what can I do to make things suitable?
Is the rest of that page translated appropriately?
--=20
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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From celi@dieese.org.br Wed Feb 7 20:28:14 2024
From: Celi
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject:
[MM3-users] Re: Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 17:28:05 -0300
Message-ID: <866a4822-a81b-4099-a8f8-ed59c13a9d91@dieese.org.br>
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From celi@dieese.org.br Wed Feb 7 20:47:17 2024
From: Celi
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject:
[MM3-users] Re: Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 17:47:10 -0300
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From mark@msapiro.net Fri Feb 9 22:40:40 2024
From: Mark Sapiro
To: mailman-users@mailman3.org
Subject:
[MM3-users] Re: Problems with mailman core translation and other details
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 14:40:31 -0800
Message-ID: <83ca133e-8ac1-421c-8c98-e8711b6f9135@msapiro.net>
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On 2/7/24 12:47, Celi via Mailman-users wrote:
> yes. thank you for asking.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Em 07/02/2024 16:46, Mark Sapiro escreveu:
>> On 2/6/24 2:41 PM, celi--- via Mailman-users wrote:
>>> It=C2=B4s the case below: the pair msgid/msgstr seems to be OK, but this =
>>> particular sentence is not being translated.
>>>
>>> #: templates/postorius/lists/summary.html:88
>>> #, python-format
>>> msgid ""
>>> "\n"
>>> "=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 To subscribe you can send an email with 'subscribe'=20
>>> in the"
>>> "subject to\n"
>>> "=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "
>>> "%(address)s\n"
>>> "=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 or use the form below:\n"
>>> ""
...
>>
>>
>> Is the rest of that page translated appropriately?
There is a possible issue with
msgid ""
"\n"
" To subscribe you can send an email with 'subscribe' in the"
"subject to\n"
" "
"%(address)s\n"
" or use the form below:\n"
""
it should be
msgid ""
"\n"
" To subscribe you can send an email with 'subscribe' in=20
the "
"subject to\n"
" "
"%(address)s\n"
" or use the form below:\n"
Ignore the folded line, but note the trailing space in
" To subscribe you can send an email with 'subscribe' in=20
the "
If that's the issue it is with the Debian package.
--=20
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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